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We're 1000 days into the War in Iraq ... Here Are the Hard Statistics
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| occrider |
Backstory: 1,000 days in Iraq
Tuesday marks the 1,000th day of the war in Iraq. Apart from the debate over its purpose and progress, here are some basic facts about the conflict.
Compiled by Daniel Enemark
Casualties
• 2,149 US forces have been killed, including 44 women.
• 15,880 US soldiers have been wounded.
• On average, 37 US soldiers a month are shipped home because of '"psychiatric" problems.
• 201 non-US Coalition forces have been killed in Iraq, including 98 from Britain, 27 from Italy, 18 from Ukraine, 17 from Poland, 13 from Bulgaria, and 11 from Spain.
• 25,000 to 30,000 is a rough estimate of the number of Iraqi civilians who lost their lives for war-related reasons since May 2003.
• An estimated 3,700 Iraqi police and military have died since June 2003.
Sources: The Brookings Institution, GlobalSecurity.org, The Wall Street Journal, Iraq Minister of Interior
Causes of death
• Of the 2,149 US troop casualties, the largest number resulted from hostile fire (some 693). Other major contributors: Improvised Explosive Devices (636); accidents, friendly fire, and other 'nonhostile causes' (393); helicopter losses (126); car bombs (111).
Source: The Brookings Institution
Insurgent strength
SOURCE: BROOKINGS INSTITUTION; GRAPHICS: RICH CLABAUGH - STAFF
• 3,500 is the lowest estimate of full-time insurgents. US military estimates put the range between 8,000 and 18,000 "core" insurgents. Iraqi intelligence officials believe the number of insurgent sympathizers could be as high as 200,000.
Source: "Iraqi Force Development" by Anthony Cordesman, Center for Strategic and International Studies
Troop levels
• 160,000 US troops are currently deployed in Iraq.
• 1.05 million troops have been stationed in Iraq or Afghanistan since Sept. 11, 2001.
• 32.6 percent of American troops have been sent to Iraq or Afghanistan for two or more tours of duty.
• 23,000 non-US or Iraqi soldiers are serving as part of the Coalition forces.
Sources: US Department of Defense, The Brookings Institution
Contractors
• As of March 2005, more than 20,000 individuals were working for private contractors in Iraq.
• 6,000 of these were guarding individuals, escorting convoys, or performing other security roles.
• 286 private contractors have been killed.
• As of July 2004, the US had paid out more than $50 billion to civilian contractors. Among the largest contracts: Kellog, Brown & Root, a subsidiary of Halliburton ($10.8 billion); Parsons Corp. ($5.2 billion); Fluor Corp. ($3.8 billion); Washington Group International ($3.1 billion).
Sources: P.W. Singer "Outsourcing the War in Iraq" in Foreign Affairs, The Center for Public Integrity
Journalists
• 75 journalists have been killed in the war; 2 are missing.
Source: Reporters Without Borders
Iraqi Opinion
• 64 percent of Iraqis predict their lives will improve in the coming year; 69 percent believe the nation will improve.
Source: Oxford Research International for the BBC (November 2005)
The mailbag
• Up to 400,000 pounds of mail is delivered to US service members in the Gulf each day. It arrives on its own 747.
Source: US Postal Service
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| Trancer-X |
War Is A Racket
It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives.
A racket is best described, I believe, as something that is not what it seems to the majority of the people. Only a small "inside" group knows what it is about. It is conducted for the benefit of the very few, at the expense of the very many. Out of war a few people make huge fortunes.
In the World War I a mere handful garnered the profits of the conflict. At least 21,000 new millionaires and billionaires were made in the United States during the World War. That many admitted their huge blood gains in their income tax returns. How many other war millionaires falsified their tax returns no one knows.
How many of these war millionaires shouldered a rifle? How many of them dug a trench? How many of them knew what it meant to go hungry in a rat-infested dug-out? How many of them spent sleepless, frightened nights, ducking shells and shrapnel and machine gun bullets? How many of them parried a bayonet thrust of an enemy? How many of them were wounded or killed in battle?
Out of war nations acquire additional territory, if they are victorious. They just take it. This newly acquired territory promptly is exploited by the few -- the selfsame few who wrung dollars out of blood in the war. The general public shoulders the bill.
excerpt taken from:
online:
http://www.veteransforpeace.org/war...cket_033103.htm |
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| Purple |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
• 25,000 to 30,000 is a rough estimate of the number of Iraqi civilians who lost their lives for war-related reasons since May 2003.
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I think you left one more Statistic:
25,000 multiply by 2 equals 50,000.
50,000 is a rough estimate of the number of Iraqi civilians who are willing to giveup their lives and be a sucide bomber afer this invasion. |
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| Psygnosis |
So your telling me that the US killed more civilians than actual Iraqi fighters?
Hah, thats Americas way of war for you. |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
I think you left one more Statistic:
25,000 multiply by 2 equals 50,000.
50,000 is a rough estimate of the number of Iraqi civilians who are willing to giveup their lives and be a sucide bomber afer this invasion. |
So what?
That's like those poor folk in the Fallujah and white phos. Didn't they announce to empty out the city if they weren't insurgents? Yes they did.
It's either listen or die at your own free will. And no one goes around killing poor innocent civilians, unless they get in the way, or raise a fist and jeapordize a life of a soldier, or so on.
Thanks for the stats occrider. Very interesting summary thus far. |
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| biznology |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
So what?
That's like those poor folk in the Fallujah and white phos. Didn't they announce to empty out the city if they weren't insurgents? Yes they did.
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not to be the hippy liberal here, but would you just up and leave your home if someone said they were going to take over the place?
i doubt the military said anything about chemically burining anyone in sight when they proclaimed they were coming in.
the statistics are enough to show there isnt enough participation, too many deaths and falling popularity to justify the purpose of this war.
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by biznology
not to be the hippy liberal here, but would you just up and leave your home if someone said they were going to take over the place? |
You're not a hippy for asking. Case and point, look at the hurricane non-evacuees in New Orleans/Mississippi. Though the comparison isn't quite apples-to-apples, it takes an awful lot to get most people to simply up and abandon their home because an outsider says so (Not that they are right to stay, as is generally seen in the end, but it's still not a fun decision to make).
And perhaps one of the most obvious analogies of all--just look at the Jews in Israel having to abandon their homes after all these years. They dragged their feet the whole way. However, if they'd stayed, they would've faced continued opposition and attack from the Palestinians.
I'm not saying which is wrong and which is right, rather I'm just reiterating that getting people to abandon their homes simply because someone tells them to do it isn't always an easy task. |
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| Lepanto |
| Shakka, comparing what the people during the hurricane were leaving behind to what an average Iraqi civillian would leave behind isn't even in the same neighborhood, ballpark, or even the same game. Second of all, if there's a war and my town/city/whatever is harboring the enemy and the soldiers come and get ready to attack and tell all civilians to evecuate or risk behing hurt in the process, i'd listen, ESPECIALLY when the U.S. Army and the USMC are telling me that. Also, I'm sure that alot of times the insurgents wouldn't let people leave as well. |
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| Shakka |
I'd listen too. Particularly considering the ammunition backing up the order. I'm just saying that it would be a tough decision and there are plenty of people out there who think differently or just think maybe they can ride out the storm under their kitchen table or something.
By no means am I trying to say you are wrong. I'm trying to be as objectively neutral as possible. |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
Shakka, comparing what the people during the hurricane were leaving behind to what an average Iraqi civillian would leave behind isn't even in the same neighborhood, ballpark, or even the same game. Second of all, if there's a war and my town/city/whatever is harboring the enemy and the soldiers come and get ready to attack and tell all civilians to evecuate or risk behing hurt in the process, i'd listen, ESPECIALLY when the U.S. Army and the USMC are telling me that. Also, I'm sure that alot of times the insurgents wouldn't let people leave as well. |
Ehm, you do realise your obvious bias in that post?
"Second of all, if there's a war and my town/city/whatever is harboring the enemy and the soldiers come and get ready to attack and tell all civilians to evecuate or risk behing hurt in the process"
What about :
"Second of all, if there's a war and my town/city/whatever is harboring the ones fighting the opposition power and the invaders come and get ready to attack and tell all civilians to evecuate or risk behing hurt in the process" |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lepanto
So what?
That's like those poor folk in the Fallujah and white phos. Didn't they announce to empty out the city if they weren't insurgents? Yes they did.
It's either listen or die at your own free will. And no one goes around killing poor innocent civilians, unless they get in the way, or raise a fist and jeapordize a life of a soldier, or so on.
Thanks for the stats occrider. Very interesting summary thus far. |
your posts once again wreak of the black/white syndrome you suffer from.
How bout these people in fallujah are threatened by everyone around them for leaving and risk their lives being taken away from them by listening to the americans. Or how bout you have no in way of getting out of there becuase 1) you dont have the money to and 2) you dont have the means to. Not only that... walking out of inurgent ridden fallujagh with your family behind you isnt really the safest ticket out of this whole mess, considering the whole place is in shambles. |
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| Lepanto |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
your posts once again wreak of the black/white syndrome you suffer from.
How bout these people in fallujah are threatened by everyone around them for leaving and risk their lives being taken away from them by listening to the americans. Or how bout you have no in way of getting out of there becuase 1) you dont have the money to and 2) you dont have the means to. Not only that... walking out of inurgent ridden fallujagh with your family behind you isnt really the safest ticket out of this whole mess, considering the whole place is in shambles. |
oh my you've once agained opened my eyes. How was i so blind :rolleyes: cleraly, no one sees things my way and your cohorts are running the show in the real world.
you're trully are a democrat. "Democrats never have ideas and Republicans can always make them tier"
what would be your genious plan of action, oh wise savant? |
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