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are there any other TA travellers out there??? (pg. 4)
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| loca |
| quote: | Originally posted by spitty
i think thats what i'm going to do. both of my parents were born in holland. i think they're both canadian citizens now though. does that make a difference? |
Yes, that does make a difference. The only way you can get an EU citizenship (going through your Dutch roots anyways) is if your parents are still Dutch (i.e. they are here purely on a landed immigrant status). It doesn't matter if they were born there, the point is that now they are no longer European. And if you're not born there either, then chances are practically non-existant for you to get an EU passport without going through the process any non-EU person would have to go through - which i believe takes anywhere from 3-5 years (at least in the BENELUX).
Also, I know for a fact that to be able to get a citizenship from Belgium for example, you need to be able to speak the language (in our case either french or dutch). Being that Holland usually follows close to Belgium (and vice versa), I'm pretty sure that in order to become a citizen you will need to at least be able to speak dutch.
Another thing [re:Ibiza], i know this is going to sound negative, but many, many kids go to Ibiza to work there over the summer from England, France, Belgium, etc. I know a huge amount of people who have tried to get jobs there for summer well ahead of time and it was totally impossible as those places get snatched up so fast. So if you want to work there, make sure you have it planned well in advance.
And lastly, to the person who said you didn't need a visa to work as a bartender/waitress, etc. Uhm yeah you do! Try and get a job like that in Ibiza (or anywhere in Europe for that matter) without a visa and see if people don't laugh in your face. I don't know about eastern europe of course but i know that western europe is pretty freaking strict about that. And if caught working without a visa, ouch! Besides you can only go to most countries in Europe on a 90 day waiver visa, so how would she get awat with that one? |
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| magikb |
| quote: | Originally posted by loca
Yes, that does make a difference. The only way you can get an EU citizenship (going through your Dutch roots anyways) is if your parents are still Dutch (i.e. they are here purely on a landed immigrant status). It doesn't matter if they were born there, the point is that now they are no longer European. And if you're not born there either, then chances are practically non-existant for you to get an EU passport without going through the process any non-EU person would have to go through - which i believe takes anywhere from 3-5 years (at least in the BENELUX).
Also, I know for a fact that to be able to get a citizenship from Belgium for example, you need to be able to speak the language (in our case either french or dutch). Being that Holland usually follows close to Belgium (and vice versa), I'm pretty sure that in order to become a citizen you will need to at least be able to speak dutch.
And lastly, to the person who said you didn't need a visa to work as a bartender/waitress, etc. Uhm yeah you do! Try and get a job like that in Ibiza (or anywhere in Europe for that matter) without a visa and see if people don't laugh in your face. I don't know about eastern europe of course but i know that western europe is pretty freaking strict about that. And if caught working without a visa, ouch! Besides you can only go to most countries in Europe on a 90 day waiver visa, so how would she get awat with that one? |
You are completely correct! I have done enough research on this and have found a lot of answers along the way..
You do need a visa to work in Holland. You will NOT work without one at all. If you do not have a visa, max stay is 3 months (90 days).
My visa took me about 3-4 months to get. You have to meet a lot of qualification to get approved for one and then take all your info to the Consulate General of The Netherlands in Toronto and they make the decision.
If you plan on ever living there.. you do need to fully understand the language.. read, write and speak fluently and be completely integrated in Dutch society.
If anyone is interested though, this link gives you a ton of info!
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| DarkAngel |
| quote: | Originally posted by magikb
I am not confirming anything yet.. I have 2 back2back trips to save for already in the summer.. It was just a though after seeing the price of the flights :toothless
I will keep you posted :) |
W00t. true that.   |
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| Surreal JRS |
| quote: | Originally posted by 4-play
Ibiza, Spain |
Tentative plans to go sometime this summer. I'll probably work out some of the logistics of this early next year when I get back from the British Virgin Islands. |
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| loca |
| quote: | Originally posted by magikb
You are completely correct! I have done enough research on this and have found a lot of answers along the way..
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Hehe Yeah, comes from being the daughter of the General Chancellor of Belgium :p You end up knowing all those things intimately (which i think is really awesome anyways). :D |
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| spitty |
| quote: | Originally posted by loca
Yes, that does make a difference. The only way you can get an EU citizenship (going through your Dutch roots anyways) is if your parents are still Dutch (i.e. they are here purely on a landed immigrant status). It doesn't matter if they were born there, the point is that now they are no longer European. And if you're not born there either, then chances are practically non-existant for you to get an EU passport without going through the process any non-EU person would have to go through - which i believe takes anywhere from 3-5 years (at least in the BENELUX).
Also, I know for a fact that to be able to get a citizenship from Belgium for example, you need to be able to speak the language (in our case either french or dutch). Being that Holland usually follows close to Belgium (and vice versa), I'm pretty sure that in order to become a citizen you will need to at least be able to speak dutch.
Another thing [re:Ibiza], i know this is going to sound negative, but many, many kids go to Ibiza to work there over the summer from England, France, Belgium, etc. I know a huge amount of people who have tried to get jobs there for summer well ahead of time and it was totally impossible as those places get snatched up so fast. So if you want to work there, make sure you have it planned well in advance.
And lastly, to the person who said you didn't need a visa to work as a bartender/waitress, etc. Uhm yeah you do! Try and get a job like that in Ibiza (or anywhere in Europe for that matter) without a visa and see if people don't laugh in your face. I don't know about eastern europe of course but i know that western europe is pretty freaking strict about that. And if caught working without a visa, ouch! Besides you can only go to most countries in Europe on a 90 day waiver visa, so how would she get awat with that one? |
I've been speaking to several people who have worked there, as well as reading forums about working in Ibiza and the general consensus is that it is relatively easy to find a job illegally, but only if you arrive early (may), and apply in person
I can pretty much forget about working anywhere else. i have some family and friends in england and holland that have said i can help out doing stuff here and there if necessary, but hopefully i can save enough money that it won't be necessary to work anywhere else then ibiza
loca: question about citizenships..is it possible to have dual? i always assumed my parents had both. if u apply for canadian citizenship, do u automatically lose your dutch citizenship? |
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| tatgirl |
| quote: | Originally posted by jon jon
Nat's a well travelled partier... but I have a feeling Kevin and Fuad trump her by a long shot globally (without the parties). |
I'm well-travelled without all the parties too ;) but I'm sure Fuad kicks my ass in that dept.
North American cities I've partied in:
-DC (too many to list)
-Baltimore
-NYC (too many to list)
-Miami- millenium event, WMC '01- '04
-Buffalo
-Montreal- Swirl '05, Cream '02, Black & Blue '05, various Aria & Stereo & Sona parties
-Toronto (too many to list)
-San Francisco- 1015 Fulsom
-Chicago- Crobar
European clubbing adventures:
-Holland: Innercity 2001, Dance Valley 2002 + 2003
-England: Godskitchen Global Gathering 2002, Gatecrasher night at Club Heaven in London w/Oakenfold
-Israel: Heinekin Thirst party on the beach w/ Offern Nissim & John Digweed 2005; Christian Smith & Alien Project at TLV 2003; Marcus Schulz at the Dome '05; Purim afterparty at Ha'Oman 17 2001, Nick Warren at Octopus 2000.
-Spain- Club Space (w/Smokin Jo) & Pacha in Madrid
I'm always lookin for a reason to travel. Its rare if I take a trip anywhere without the intention of partying. |
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| magikb |
| quote: | Originally posted by loca
Hehe Yeah, comes from being the daughter of the General Chancellor of Belgium :p You end up knowing all those things intimately (which i think is really awesome anyways). :D |
Lucky you.. I had to spend long sleepless hours finding and researching all my info (that I lost when my computer died) then had to find all over again.. hahaha...lucky me :p
But in future, I know who to PM if there are questions I need answers to and cannot find! ;) |
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| loca |
| quote: | Originally posted by spitty
I've been speaking to several people who have worked there, as well as reading forums about working in Ibiza and the general consensus is that it is relatively easy to find a job illegally, but only if you arrive early (may), and apply in person
I can pretty much forget about working anywhere else. i have some family and friends in england and holland that have said i can help out doing stuff here and there if necessary, but hopefully i can save enough money that it won't be necessary to work anywhere else then ibiza
loca: question about citizenships..is it possible to have dual? i always assumed my parents had both. if u apply for canadian citizenship, do u automatically lose your dutch citizenship? |
As of right now, i don't believe it is possible to have a dual citizenship. The last time i checked, i don't believe Holland allowed this yet. There are talks of this being in the works (as Belgium is in the same position), however don't expect this to happen before another 2-3 years minimum.
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I found this which supports what i was saying, as i suspected:
| quote: | | Dutch citizens who acquire another citizenship may loose their Dutch (reference) except in some interesting situations. There is a reference to an “agreement for the prevention of dual nationality” with Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Luxembourg and Norway. |
I would think that when your parents became Canadian, they automatically lost their Dutch citizenship. The only way to go around the system is if you are already Canadian and apply for Dutch cit, you will have dual because Canada allows it. The other way round is not possible right now :(
And regarding Ibiza, please be careful if you work there illegally. Should you get caught (touch wood you won't), you will be promptly rappatriated from Europe to Canada and get told to forget coming back there again. And this does not include just Ibiza unfortunately as Spain is within the Shengen Agreement countries which means you will be blacklisted with all the embassies of countries within that agreement (so basically the Benelux [Belgium, The Netherlands, Luxemburg], France, Germany, Portugal, Spain, Greece and Austria). |
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| loca |
| quote: | Originally posted by magikb
Lucky you.. I had to spend long sleepless hours finding and researching all my info (that I lost when my computer died) then had to find all over again.. hahaha...lucky me :p
But in future, I know who to PM if there are questions I need answers to and cannot find! ;) |
Absolutely, feel free to PM me any time should you need info on anything regarding Shengen countries (the ones i know about best). I do also know a bunch of stuff about other countries, probably more that what you will find on a regular embassy website. I find those so damn useless. :mad: |
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| magikb |
| quote: | Originally posted by loca
Absolutely, feel free to PM me any time should you need info on anything regarding Shengen countries (the ones i know about best). I do also know a bunch of stuff about other countries, probably more that what you will find on a regular embassy website. I find those so damn useless. :mad: |
Thanks! :)
And yes they are VERY useless.. I found more by doing a number of google searches then on the embassy site :whip: |
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| dEsidEL |
i've just started my global partying regimen last year .. so far my list goes ..
Sonar Festival 2004 - Barcelona, Spain
Sensation White 2004 - Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Fight the Power aka. "Love Parade 2004", The Love from Above - Berlin, Germany
Godskitchen Global Gathering 2004 - Stratford Upon Avon, England
Sonar Festival 2005 - Barcelona, Spain
as well as various other parties/clubs in cities ..
London
Madrid
Barcelona
Nice
Berlin
Prague
Venice
Rome
my future planned itinerary in 2006 will hopefully be..
Love Parade 2006 / World Cup 2006 - Berlin, Germany
Nature One Festival 2006 - Frankfurt, Germany
Exit Festival 2006 - Novi Sad, Serbia & Montenegro
but i gotta admit .. Nat will always be tha supa dupa global veteran!!
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