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LieberDJ
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Originally posted by Magnetonium


No. Techno was born in Detroit, in early 1980s. The legendary Belleville 3: Juan Atkins, Derrick May and Kevin Saunderson gave the birth to techno. Fact: Juan Atkins himself COINED the word techno. Europe picked up on it and by 1990 promiment techno artists sprung up in Europe. Orbital, 808 State, LFO, Laurent Garnier and others - were all inspired by the first detroit techno wave. Detroit Techno gave the birth to the electronic music as it is today.

You should really get into it, and you'll see what I mean.



all those artists you speak of were clearly sampling, looping old disco and original european productions from the 70's and early 80's

yes im off topic but techno itself is just slight alteration from disco and european electronica
Radagast
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all those artists you speak of were clearly sampling, looping old disco and original european productions from the 70's and early 80's

yes im off topic but techno itself is just slight alteration from disco and european electronica


They sampled and made original music both. Techno itself is not a slight alteration of Disco, man. You're probably thinking of House. Techno, when it was invented, was a slight alteration of Electro.


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Originally posted by LieberDJ
could it be that techno had a european influence?


i find it easy to beleive


That's because it's true. It's safe to say that avant-garde bands like Kraftwerk and Yellow Magic Orchestra were big influences on Juan Atkins, the guy who coined the word. He did sample them in some tracks, like you said. So far as Joris Voorn goes, Techno had been filtered from Detroit, into the world, and back again by the time he started making it.

It is possible that he made some Detroit Techno even though he's not from Detroit. It has been done since the early 90's. Laurent Garnier made some. Dave Angel. Mike Dearborn. There's a track from Andy Stott released in 2005 that reminds me of nothing more than late-80's early 90's style Detroit Techno, but he's not from there.

It sounds to me like if it's not strictly Detroit Techno, Joris Voorn makes music that is heavily influenced by it.
Nrg2Nfinit
ill have to check out this compilation looks intresting
humilis
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Originally posted by RebeL9
I love Shining. I hope he makes more of that style


+1
LieberDJ
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Originally posted by Radagast
They sampled, and they made original music. Techno itself is not a slight alteration of Disco, man. You're probably thinking of House. Techno, when it was invented, was a slight alteration of Electro.



electro, 80s disco, techno whats the difference

the live instruments are gone and you have the roots of electronica

if you take away the vocals from 80s disco, you have "techno" that is more complex, less looped and more diverse. its all a marketing tool for lazy djs :p
Magnetonium
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Originally posted by Radagast
They sampled and made original music both. Techno itself is not a slight alteration of Disco, man. You're probably thinking of House. Techno, when it was invented, was a slight alteration of Electro.

It sounds to me like if it's not strictly Detroit Techno, Joris Voorn makes music that is heavily influenced by it.




Yes. and Yes. Glad to have another expert on my side. Detroit techno was completely original. Surely Juan Atkins was inspired by Kraftwerk, but his music was totally seminal. He created a new sound that we marvel at today. Now Juan Atkins is God, not Tiesto or Van Dyk. He is the Elvis Presley of electronic dance music in my opinion, and in opinions of many other fans. Belleville 3 came and changed electronic music just like the Roswell UFO Crash introduced lasers, integrated circuit chips, electronic headbands, nightvision goggles, super tenacity fibers, etc. that changed the world. Amen.


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Originally posted by LieberDJ
electro, 80s disco, techno whats the difference

the live instruments are gone and you have the roots of electronica

if you take away the vocals from 80s disco, you have "techno" that is more complex, less looped and more diverse. its all a marketing tool for lazy djs :p


Man, you really know nothing about electronic music. You need to go and learn. Noob.
Ian
big fan of this guy, shining, incident and his works with alexander kowalski have really impressed me, however my favourite is his remix of secret cinema, it's so lush & soft. Def a guy with a big future, provided he doesn't rest on his laurels & think he's accomplished it all.
Psy-T
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Originally posted by LieberDJ
if you take away the vocals from 80s disco, you have "techno" that is more complex, less looped and more diverse. its all a marketing tool for lazy djs :p


if you take away the vocals from 80s disco you have late 80s house, not techno.
Psy-T
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Originally posted by Magnetonium


Now Juan Atkins is God, not Tiesto or Van Dyk. He is the Elvis Presley of electronic dance music in my opinion, and in opinions of many other fans.


rethink that analogy.
Psy-T
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Originally posted by RebeL9
a bit offtopic but since we are talking techno.
does any of you know this tune?
http://hem.bredband.net/homzaf/caveid.mp3

played by Cave.


first you can ask verminator who shares an apartment with him or something like that, and if he doesnt know, you can just pm cave (though he doesnt log on often), or email him... the address is at his website iirc.

LieberDJ
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Originally posted by Psy-T
if you take away the vocals from 80s disco you have late 80s house, not techno.


hipnosis, harry thumann, kraftwerk, kano, arthur baker, moderne techno electro freestyle from europe
Radagast
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if you take away the vocals from 80s disco, you have "techno" that is more complex, less looped and more diverse. its all a marketing tool for lazy djs


First of all, there was 80's Italo Disco that didn't have vocals. Secondly, it wasn't techno, it was Italo Disco. Or perhaps Spacesynth. If you take away the vocals from 80's Disco, you have 80's Disco. Vocals aren't the determining factor between the two genres. Third, the differences between Electronic Music genres aren't as simple as how "complex" or "diverse" or "looped" they are. All EDM is simple and looped man. Some genre names are marketing tools and some aren't. Techno isn't.

If you take away the vocals from Rap, you have Electro that is less complex, more looped, and less diverse. If you take away the vocals from Trance, you have "techno" that is more complex, less looped and more diverse. Blah blah blah. This means nothing.
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