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Joris Voorn = RESPECT (pg. 3)
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by LieberDJ
hipnosis, harry thumann, kraftwerk, kano, arthur baker, moderne techno electro freestyle from europe |
the term techno wasnt used to describe their musical style.
and btw, kraftwerk preceeded most (if not all) disco music, thus foiling your own point. |
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| Radagast |
| quote: | Originally posted by LieberDJ
hipnosis, harry thumann, kraftwerk, kano, arthur baker, moderne techno electro freestyle from europe |
Modern? Most of those artists' heydays were 20 years ago...
Do most of those people even make music anymore? I know Arthur Baker is doing stuff still (crappy stuff). Like collabs with Dave Clarke and new millenium remixes of New Order tracks he produced in the 80's. Kraftwerk is still doing their thing at a slow pace...apparently making both Techno and Electro since 2000. But the rest... |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
the term techno wasnt used to describe their musical style.
and btw, kraftwerk preceeded most (if not all) disco music, thus foiling your own point. |
i think he meant european electronica in general |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
rethink that analogy. |
Geez Whiz. I meant to say that Juan Atkins is the Elvis Presley of electronic dance music. Nah, he wasnt the first ... Nah ... Well, I guess I'll have to compare Mr. Atkins with Albert Einstein. Yes, now THAT'S A GOOD ANALOGY! :tongue2
Bravo guys on teaching that noob some lessons in electronic music. I just couldn't concentrate on explaining it to him in clearer terms, since his ideas were silly in the first place. I just cant handle that /// |
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| dj_lane |
| joris voorn isnt even detroit techno, doesnt even sound 1 thing like it... thats just my opinion |
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| Magnetonium |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_lane
joris voorn isnt even detroit techno, doesnt even sound 1 thing like it... thats just my opinion |
Let me rephrase my point. SOME OF HIS MUSIC is detroit flavoured. So far I got through his Future History album, and thats dutch-made detroit techno. I am not sure about his other stuff, but from what I've heard a lot of it is also influenced by detroit's first wave. I can pretty much compare him to the music by Aril Brikha. Future History track is totally his style. Groove La Chord's sequel.
Anyhow, this thread is more of to post your opinions on Joris Voorn, not what the genre of music is. Cheers. |
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| LieberDJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Man, you really know nothing about electronic music. You need to go and learn. Noob. |
excuse me. your referring to 80s north american electronica created from a garage as if it was the epic foundation of electronica.
The only thing north america was good for was genre lableing generally. it was all done in the early 80s and 70s by the europeans, just in the midsts of hundreds of productions experimental ones were made and literally north americans took these few examples (see the artists i named before) and reciprocated key productions, gave them a genre and a market audience.
im not saying that nothing unique came out of north american electronica, but im saying the impact it had was highly exaggerated. |
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| LieberDJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast
Modern? Most of those artists' heydays were 20 years ago...
Do most of those people even make music anymore? I know Arthur Baker is doing stuff still (crappy stuff). Like collabs with Dave Clarke and new millenium remixes of New Order tracks he produced in the 80's. Kraftwerk is still doing their thing at a slow pace...apparently making both Techno and Electro since 2000. But the rest... |
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| LieberDJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Magnetonium
Bravo guys on teaching that noob some lessons in electronic music. I just couldn't concentrate on explaining it to him in clearer terms, since his ideas were silly in the first place. I just cant handle that /// |
silly.. i was listening to this music before you were born |
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| Radagast |
| quote: | | silly.. i was listening to this music before you were born |
Nobody cares.
| quote: | Originally posted by LieberDJ
excuse me. your referring to 80s north american electronica created from a garage as if it was the epic foundation of electronica. |
It was the epic foundation of a whole subgenre. They call it Techno. That's good enough.
| quote: | | The only thing north america was good for was genre lableing generally. it was all done in the early 80s and 70s by the europeans, just in the midsts of hundreds of productions experimental ones were made and literally north americans took these few examples (see the artists i named before) and reciprocated key productions, gave them a genre and a market audience. |
You are right that north america took european sounds and made them better in the 80's. Namely via Electro. The key word is better. Arthur Baker sampled Kraftwerk and made it better. Most EDM genres didn't even exist before 1980. You had Krautrock and Kraftwerk and some Japanese experimentalists, Musique Concrete. But when Juan Atkins gave techno a name, he wasn't sitting there planning on his intended market audience. Like you said, he was "making music out of his garage", he wasn't a professional marketer. You should look for a european guy named Paul Oakenfold if you want to find someone who is good at marketing genres of music.
| quote: | | im not saying that nothing unique came out of north american electronica, but im saying the impact it had was highly exaggerated. |
Two words: Hip Hop
Two more words: Acid Trax
Two mooore words: Big Fun
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| LieberDJ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Radagast
Nobody cares.
It was the epic foundation of a whole subgenre. They call it Techno. That's good enough.
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You are right that north america took european sounds and made them better in the 80's. Namely via Electro. The key word is better. Arthur Baker sampled Kraftwerk and made it better.
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better. isnt the correct word. Different yes. The truth is that there was much more going on during the 70's and early 80's in europe that what was beleived. France had a huge experimental scene
http://www.discogs.com/release/262190
this is the sound that they call electro and techno now a days.
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Most EDM genres didn't even exist before 1980.
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True.. doesnt mean that hte music didnt exist and should be neglected.
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You had Krautrock and Kraftwerk and some Japanese experimentalists, Musique Concrete. But when Juan Atkins gave techno a name,
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thats a generalized understatement, laughable.
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he wasn't sitting there planning on his intended market audience. Like you said, he was "making music out of his garage", he wasn't a professional marketer.
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defining a genre is creating a market.
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You should look for a european guy named Paul Oakenfold if you want to find someone who is good at marketing genres of music.
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hardly worth mentioning in the grand scheme of things, BUT at least he credited moroder and gave realization to the world of the origins of electronica.
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Two words: Hip Hop
Two more words: Acid Trax
Two mooore words: Big Fun
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2 more words to add to your vocabulary:
loop and sample |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| yeah arthur baker was from boston. and did contribute alot to the breakbeat phenomenon. A north american influence that was definatley highly noteable |
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