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Aria: fallen off the map for techno completely?! (pg. 4)
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| malek |
FunkenLouis: events are still sponsored by "cigarettes" in Toronto if I'm not mistaken (you can sell cigarettes, but can't smoke them). Someone from Toronto could please second this?
I don't see why it should be any different in Montreal. |
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| Mekroon |
ca va etre tellement mieux pu de clopes
en vendre mais pas en fumer hahahahhaahahahahahahaha
y devrait avoir des fumoirs pour que les fumeurs clunkent entres eux
pi des sprays anti odeur pour quils puent pas en sortant
ou ben sinon quils vendent des doses de nicotines
jai déja vu ca je sais pu c sous quelle forme mais ya pu de fumée
c surement dla pate comme en suède
ca brule les tissus bucaux:P |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
FunkenLouis: events are still sponsored by "cigarettes" in Toronto if I'm not mistaken (you can sell cigarettes, but can't smoke them). Someone from Toronto could please second this?
I don't see why it should be any different in Montreal. |
I can't remember the last time I went to an event that was sponsored by a cigarette company...if it happens, I'm not noticing it, even at events with the more expensive techno DJs. |
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| UneeK |
MMX, during 99-2002, we had some of the greatest DJ's ever spin in MTL (techno). Those were the 514 glory days as well.
I started listening to edm through Techno. I loved my music really really hard and dark. Now i like everything, from funky house, to prog to trance (without the fluff). But then again, i have always been one of those people who likes music that is not popular. When i was younger i listened no Hip Hop that was not popular, undergournd. Montreal is a great EDM city, but c'mon ask 10 random ppl between 18-35 and ask them their favorite type of music, i bet that only 1 or 2 would say one of the EDM genres.
The fact is that our city needs some pioneers to step up. We need a prime time radio show that promotes good electronic music. We need musique plus to play a in edm video once in a while. I find that the afterhour culture in general has gone down. Less kids are getting into it because their favorite music is hiphop and the others are getting older and there comes a day when everyobody must "retire". The fact is that the generation of kids coming up here are hip hop lovers and if they're different than their peers, they usually are trance fans (tiesto and co.). The only way to make a change is what did for me, my cousin played me a Mauro Picotto live set for me at a time where i thought edm was not even considered music and i opened my mind and havent looked back since. We need peopke educating others about music. Pass the torch to the youngins.
The day edm starts getting media coverage, is the day when techno will be back in MTL. EDM is associated with afterhours here, and afterhours are associated with drugs. The day the Quebec media start recognizing that these DJ's and producers make soundtracks for movies and TV shows and play during regular club hours and give them network coverage, thats when the scene will pick up. For example, even the Montreal Mirror has less edm coverage these days. Gone are the 2 page articles about Sasha & Digweed.
Trance and house are more popular in general everywhewre in the world almost, its not gonna be different here, but i feel that the edm scene in general needs to take the next step in MTL. Techno is something thats always had its place in MTL until recently.
Also, we have to see the evolution of the music. A lot of techno DJ's are now spinning minimal/electre house. So thats also a new sound and people dont really know much about it. Sort of like Misstress Barbara was saying in that interview that x-cube posted.
And the fact is that people are more reluctant to try an afterhours for the first time because kids (18-21) these days have a misconception of what they are. My idea is book more DJ's during club hours, and slowly but surely the afterhours scene in Montreal will be banging once again.
And i for one, am willing to participate and put my money where my mouth is. If anyone has any ideas or needs some type of help with a project to better the scene i'm all for it.
Ket's stop the bitching, and start the preaching (of the music). Let's face it us ppl on forums like TA, ravemontreal and mtlnights are the most dedicated in the city. So it us probably people like us that would be most likely to take proper actions to promote the music.
everytime you go to aria or stereo or any other edm event, try to bring at least 2-3 friends that are not into the music, just so they can see what its all about. Ive converted peeps by doing this. And still 95% of all my friends listen to Hip Hop. thats the reality of life in mtl. When that percentage hits 50%, i'll be happy.
IMO only :) |
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| UneeK |
| and what louis said about the ciggarettes is a MAJOR bad trip. He's right on about that. That means no chus & ceballos @ upperclub on tuesdays type nights. |
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| magikb |
| quote: | Originally posted by preach
you peeps move to europe with me ;) |
:stongue: :stongue:
May 2007 = goal for moving to Amsterdam :p
hello techno, here I come...haha
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
FunkenLouis: events are still sponsored by "cigarettes" in Toronto if I'm not mistaken (you can sell cigarettes, but can't smoke them). Someone from Toronto could please second this?
I don't see why it should be any different in Montreal. |
I don't know if any club is still sponsored by cigarettes in TO, but I do know that Benson & Hedges are sold commonly among most of the clubs in TO (especially Guv where they have their own booth set up). Whether or not they are connected in any way is unknown.
And yes Tia, Toronto does have a designated smoking areas which I will gladly go smoke on at any point in time. There is nothing worse than being in a club and your eyes starting to burn cuz of all the ing smoke in the club. And I AM a smoker!
Guv even has a heated smoking area for us in the winter time. Most clubs do not, you have to stand outside in the cold. |
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| magikb |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kate Manus
Jenn: I have long considered this and I am willing to do my part but I can’t do it alone, both from a promotion standpoint and financially. I have been in talks with several European techno agents about a wide range of quality djs, anyone from Hertz to Steve Rachmad to the Space Djz, but at this stage it would take other bookings in these parts to even be able to realistically consider it (which I am currently lobbying for). I can’t say for sure but I would like to be able to help put on at least one smaller party by the end of the year, so we shall see!
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I have completely thought about getting into this myself. But like you, financially I can not afford to do it nor could I do that all on my own. Although the thought of it totally does appeal to me. I think it would be a lot of hard work but it is something that would pay off in the end at any case.
Good luck with the party planning! :) |
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| malek |
| quote: | Originally posted by magikb
I don't know if any club is still sponsored by cigarettes in TO, but I do know that Benson & Hedges are sold commonly among most of the clubs in TO (especially Guv where they have their own booth set up). Whether or not they are connected in any way is unknown.
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thats exactly the sponsoring i'm talking about. And it'll happen over here, smoking ban or not. |
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| magikb |
| quote: | Originally posted by malek
thats exactly the sponsoring i'm talking about. And it'll happen over here, smoking ban or not. |
the smoking ban isn't going to effect people/club owners/restaurants/etc as much as everyone thinks it is. I live in Kitchener and it was put into effect a good 2 years before TO and it changed nothing. Nor did it change Toronto either. If I am correct they are even thinking of bringing something into effect along these lines in Holland as well and they can legally smoke pot there. Think of their effects. :p |
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| mcb001982 |
| quote: | Originally posted by preach
you peeps move to europe with me ;) |
:tongue3 :tongue3 :crazy: :crazy:
i was sad to see when i went to aria in oct 2005 for preach to not see a full club, it was a sick set and to have the home town dj come back and rip it up was awesome!!! keep the good work up bro :p |
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| mcb001982 |
| although down here in nyc there is no techno scene, so i have to rely on listening to sets online or getting them from people......bring back the techno!! |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by magikb
I have completely thought about getting into this myself. But like you, financially I can not afford to do it nor could I do that all on my own. Although the thought of it totally does appeal to me. I think it would be a lot of hard work but it is something that would pay off in the end at any case.
Good luck with the party planning! :) |
I would expect its easier to do in Toronto....because of the number of after hours venues and the tendency for the scene here to be curious about different DJs and smaller venues.
many of the parties that happen at 99 suds or footwork are put on by independent people or groups of people...in some cases, the venue helps out with costs, but at the very least, they provide the venue and take the bar sales, and you cover the music talent and take the door sales. The first event is the hardest, but if executed well, it can provide funds for future events. |
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