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What is Trance, to you? (pg. 7)
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by HomerSimpson
make sure you put it back right where it was after you finished listening!! lol |
House music usually does the trick. Heck, any 'body' music does, really. ;) |
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| Pinokio |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Intrigue
But it is just the fact that the majority of this type of talk comes across as being very sappy and shallow, and pop-tarty as well (no matter who the person is), which ultimately feels quite pretentious and fake in my opinion... and I just really have to sit back and have myself a good laugh at some of this because it is JUST MUSIC, not the second coming of the heavens like trance music is made out to be by the fans. Look, I am NOT trying to refute your genuine interest or feelings towards the music, I just think it is very much over-exaggerated to be so gitty, almost like how a teenage girl would get all flustered at a Backstreet Boys concert. That is honestly how I view some of these threads (and the whole trance scene for that matter), and I really can't help but wonder somewhat because of that. |
Some people are more vulnerable than others to have Trance experiences.
You could be passionate, but Spirit5 is more vulnerable than you to have this experiences, that's why you think it's exagerated.
Spirit5 describes his feelings very well, and I honestly can understand what he says, beacuse I feel the same. |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by isoterra
oh i understand & can relate perfectly. in the past just listening to lots of trance has seen me through depression & saved me from a nigh suicidal stage (i was 15 admittedly). i also wont deny the main purpose of chordsequences in trance is to offer the listener a metaphoric aural 'journey' as it were. alternating majors/minors can twig contrasting reactions from the brain, which can result in the the 'emotional' feeling if executed with the right kind of sounds.
but still... i think its unhealthy immersing yourself so far into the music that you forget what it is & cease being able to view it objectively. well i don't think.. i know, by past experience! |
I can say in some ways the same about me, trance has offered me a way to escape loneliness and boredom and to allow me to be more creative with my writing and my thinking. I think of some pretty profound stuff while listening to a nice trance tune. And yes that is what I think of trance an "aural journey", it doesn't have to neccessarily be stuff that "puts you in a trance", rather I just feel it should be "entrancing" or "heavenly" or just makes you feel like your in some other world.
I understand this, and I am not into trance as much as I used to be, I will admit. I've found stuff in the progressive fields that suit my personality better as i've gotten older, and is much deeper because I think deeply. I don't think of music objectively, i'm not a super-objective person, I think of music subjectively. I don't have a big musical background, other than playing alto saxophone for 6 years (5th through 9th grade) and 2 years in jazz band, a semester in music theory, and a semester in piano class in high school. Right now i'm in an "Understanding Music" class at my college. So I have a pretty basic to intermediate level of understanding of music. But thinking objectively about it is just not what I am about, it's not easy for me to do that, unless I was planning to be say a professional producer of trance or other forms of EDM, and i'm not (although I do wish to improve my mixing/DJing skills). I've always liked to write, and like I said earlier, while listening to a trance tune, it helps put images in my mind for my writing, so I can think more creatively. So this is partially where these feelings about it come from...
I have 15 pages of a novel done that i've been slowly writting and it was almost entirely written while I had trance music on. I still have a long ways to go on it, I want to make it 200 pages by the end of the summer. |
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| Kapedan |
| u know spirit, with all the long posts that you post here..you could of wrote like 5 novels by now. |
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| DJ EsseX |
| When I'm tired it makes me relaxed. It have an influence on my behaviour and character. But for sure trance gives me psychic strength !! :toocool: |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kapedan
u know spirit, with all the long posts that you post here..you could of wrote like 5 novels by now. |
Haha I know, see I told you I like to write, i'm going to be a writer on the side (i'm studying to be a psychologist). I talk alot in real life too once you get to know me, but I am usually a little reserved at first.. |
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| Kapedan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spirit5
Haha I know, see I told you I like to write, i'm going to be a writer on the side (i'm studying to be a psychologist). I talk alot in real life too once you get to know me, but I am usually a little reserved at first.. |
Thats good man :). I was just teasing you anyways ;). When you write your first book, let me know so I could read it :D. |
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| DJ Intrigue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Pinokio
Some people are more vulnerable than others to have Trance experiences.
You could be passionate, but Spirit5 is more vulnerable than you to have this experiences, that's why you think it's exagerated.
Spirit5 describes his feelings very well, and I honestly can understand what he says, beacuse I feel the same. |
Whatever you say dude. I still fully stand by my opinions because there is indeed a certain level of fakeness and sappiness that I honestly perceive from many of these types of posts (especially from the trance fanboys) who go on and on about how "happy" and "godly" trance seems to be. It just gets to a point where it becomes more than ridiculous, and also quite shallow at times to read, you know?
I don't know, maybe if the dj's, producers, fans, and listeners of trance presented their feelings or ideals in a different manner and in a less-serious and pretentious light, then I'd have to say I'd be more inclined to reconsider my arguments. But unfortunately, it is what it is for me, and I don't know what else to say or feel beyond that, since I've pretty much exhausted my stance at this point. |
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| thoughtlessjex |
There are two things that I think of when asked what trance is to me. On one hand, there's the analytical side, that tells me about the musicality of the genre. Things like arpeggios, acid, multi-layeredness, pads, repetitiveness, etc. I would describe trance, musically, as warmer than techno and less intimate than house. I've always thought of it as techno with synths instead of drums, or house, just meaner and without the funk.
There's also an intangible aesthetic to it that's not too difficult to acheive, if difficult to describe. Simply put, it's entrancing, hynotic. For the most part, this can be acheived with the analytical aspects, but the song can lose a lot of that for me if it can't hold its listener thus entranced. I suppose the cynic would say that this means trance has to appeal to me, but I like to think that it's a bit more universal than that. |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Intrigue
Whatever you say dude. I still fully stand by my opinions because there is indeed a certain level of fakeness and sappiness that I honestly perceive from many of these types of posts (especially from the trance fanboys) who go on and on about how "happy" and "godly" trance seems to be. It just gets to a point where it becomes more than ridiculous, and also quite shallow at times to read, you know?
I don't know, maybe if the dj's, producers, fans, and listeners of trance presented their feelings or ideals in a different manner and in a less-serious and pretentious light, then I'd have to say I'd be more inclined to reconsider my arguments. But unfortunately, it is what it is for me, and I don't know what else to say or feel beyond that, since I've pretty much exhausted my stance at this point. |
Well just to let you know i'm not a huge trance fan boy, I like the genre and still do, but it's not the only thing I listen to (although I will concede I did listen to it 80% of the time for the past few years, but in the past year i've grown out of it a little). But I can gurantee you again, it's not fake. Nothing I say about is fake, and I don't just say how happy or godly it is, I may use the words spiritual to describe some of it, which is my way of saying it is "beautiful" or "heavenly" but you can't deny that certain tunes have those qualities, even if you don't like it.
I recognize I'm full of pretensiousness and seriousness when it comes to these kinds of dicussions (partially why I tried to resist getting into it on here), but as i've said and as Pinokio noted, some people are genuinely passionate about certain things and yeah it may seem this way to you, but don't label people such as myself fake. You don't have to like trance, you don't have to like those who talk about it in pretensious or serious manners (sometimes sappy..), but you don't have to tell us you don't like us doing this. True some of it may seem fake, some of it may be fake from certain people, but I and I know other people on here, especially those who've liked this music for many years, are not fake.
I've been into it since 1998, when I first heard PvD's "For An Angel", so this stuff isn't coming from a newbie (even though I just signed up for TA last summer). I haven't even felt this way the whole time i've liked it, it was quite new to me in 1998, and it's taken my years to get a real appreciation for it, esp as i've gotten older and more matured in my tastes and thinking. Trance is not the only type of music I think this way about, it's just the genre that has over the years, connected with me the most. |
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| WiKKid sKiLLz |
one thing i dont understand, is why does it take someone being not serious about something, for people to take it seriously???
ive gotten some excellent feedback in here, thanks again :) |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by WiKKid sKiLLz
one thing i dont understand, is why does it take someone being not serious about something, for people to take it seriously???
ive gotten some excellent feedback in here, thanks again :) |
Yeah see there's a time and place to take it seriously. When your at a club just having fun, thats one place where you probably shouldn't. Or just chit chatting with a friend about a tune. But when you have a thread about meaning behind something, well I would think it would be more serious. |
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