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Do you believe in trance without breakdowns?
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| PlasticSoul |
So...
Seens like 99% of trance have a silent moment after 2 or 3 minutes, where starts a breakdown with some atmospheres, so a melody, and get a climax with maybe some drum or snare rolls... I think u understand my point... :)
There's a way to produce trance without do this? Like a continous build up...
Or is the breakdown the most important part on a track?
I think there are producers that substitute the silence with some breaks, like nile - ra or mirco de govia - vital spark...
Maybe it's a good discussion...
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| Col |
I definitely think it's possible to build anticipation in a track without a breakdown, so they aren't necessary for the track to be 'trance'. I also definitely don't think it's the most important thing in a track; I mean, if I'm in a club I wouldn't want the breakdown to be too long.
It's the energy in the "main section" that is most important to me in trance - that which comes after the breakdown. |
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| Spirit5 |
| There doesn't NEED to be a breakdown, but there needs to be a transition in point in the track i.e. bringing in of more elements into the track like a melody or some type of atmospheric sound or whatever it is. PvD has typically done this briliantly without a real long breakdown. Breakdowns have just been an easy way of doing this. But there should be a noticeable shift or build with melody and "elements" of a track. There needs to be some direction to it, so it just doesn't go on and on. What has typically made trance what it has is a transition point, where more and more elements come in over time. If this can be done without a breakdown but still keeping the melody, the atmosphere, the whole magic that has made trance what it is, then i'de still like it. I'm talking about the more melodic epic and progressive trance though, not psy or techy or hard stuff that seems to not cry out for breakdowns, melodies, or the like, but it's still present there to a degree as well, just not as important. |
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| dj alliance |
| For me wihtout any kind of breakdown, the element of suspense diaspears, not only that, dancing non stop without giving your legs arest will criple u :) |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| That's an extremely stupid question to be honest. |
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| Unique2701 |
| I like breakdowns but it's more what comes after the breakdown.. I mean a breakdown is pretty nice in the club, but nowadays productions seem to focus too much on the breakdown.. and then you'll hear a nice breakdown.. and then there's nothing. Not much at least. And that's just disappointing! |
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| Cloud |
Well in our days trance tracks are all the same so are their breakdowns (example: Inertia - Chamber)
On the other side house has more variety and the breakdowns are so different and they often hide some unexpected surprises  (me loves) |
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| Thois |
The future is using no breakdowns (only some silenced parts with filtered beats and percussion).
That will be the trend in a year or so, at least thats what I hope. hehe :)
I hate breakdowns too, the flow/energy in sets get lost
Imo the best example is MIKE aka Push, he made some trance tracks in the past using no breakdowns (just filtered beats and percussion during the pre-riff buildup). I love those tracks, the crowd can keep moving. |
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| gizzymcg |
| quote: | Originally posted by Thois
The future is using no breakdowns (only some silenced parts with filtered beats and percussion).
That will be the trend in a year or so, at least thats what I hope.
I hate breakdowns too, the flow/energy in sets get lost |
You talk baws. When the energy in a set is at its highest nothing and I MEAN nothing brings the crowd up to another level like a huge euphoric track with a sweeping break. When a DJ if good enough they are able to drop the energy back into his/her set and the result of the huge tune will lift lifted the crowd up to go even harder. Believe me years of clubbing have taught me this! |
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| Ishkur |
| quote: | Originally posted by PlasticSoul
There's a way to produce trance without do this? |
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| RickyM |
The way I see it is I prefer in a DJ set there to be very few tracks with a huge breakdown, only one or two. The DJ's job is to keep the crowd moving by structuring his sets properly, not by playing anthem after anthem where the crowd has to stop and hold their hands in the air constantly.
Also people are saying that a breakdown gives you a rest from dancing - if you need a rest from dancing, then that is the perfect opportunity to visit the bar :D |
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| Camwin |
| quote: | Originally posted by gizzymcg
You talk baws. When the energy in a set is at its highest nothing and I MEAN nothing brings the crowd up to another level like a huge euphoric track with a sweeping break. When a DJ if good enough they are able to drop the energy back into his/her set and the result of the huge tune will lift lifted the crowd up to go even harder. Believe me years of clubbing have taught me this! |
Yea i agree to a certain extent.
Eric Morrillo at GK played with the break down and looped it, ing with peoples heads, chucking in some effects, accapellas and making us go absolutely mental!!!! was incredible.
I think trance needs to differ from it's breakdowns.
A song that does real well IMO is....
Recluse - "Emotional void" |
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