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SOHO Nights @ TIL (pg. 13)
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| infinity HiGH |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Why would they lose money?
The "traditional" EDM scene spends far, far less at the bar than the crowd that frequents TIL on Saturdays. When was the last time you saw bottle service at a rave? |
not to mention that the DJ's they're bringing in to TiL aren't exactly expensive DJ's, with a few exceptions. |
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| c2lancas |
| Its not that they would lose money, its that they could save money. If they're not relying on bigger names for their business, then why do they need to spend that extra money for talent (I know it may be a small difference ... I guess I'm just thinking bottom line) |
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| El Kay Dee |
| quote: | Originally posted by starsearcher
It's not that they don't want to attract the EDM scene people, it's just that they expect you to put some effort into your appearance and dress up a little better I guess...nobody said you can't go ;) |
oddly the ones that havent been let in HAVE mentioned about dressing up but havent been allowed for other reasons.
beauty/ugliness is nt a reason to discriminate someone. imagine if all clubs in the world said OK to only "beautiful" people...wow...would be kinda cool huh? |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by c2lancas
Its not that they would lose money, its that they could save money. If they're not relying on bigger names for their business, then why do they need to spend that extra money for talent (I know it may be a small difference ... I guess I'm just thinking bottom line) |
I still don't follow. How could they be saving money exactly? by...?
I think they havea pretty clever formula going on right now. |
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| c2lancas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
I still don't follow. How could they be saving money exactly? by...?
I think they havea pretty clever formula going on right now. |
They would save money by hiring a less expensive dj, because they're not relying on the big names to attract their customers. I assume all djs are not payed the same. |
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| Billche |
Other then the age inconsistencies, I actually liked TiL the two times I went. The first two times, I had no problems getting in, and it was nice to dress up for a place that didn't play ty top-40 music. Sure the sound is crap, the crowd is snooty and bitchy, but the music is good, and I have a blast with my friends. After this last week though, I don't think I'm going to bother wasting my time going there any more, because I don't think its worth driving all the way down just to get denied at the door because they feel like switching the age up on me.
It's not even worth arguing about any more. I've said my peace and I'm done with it. I just wont give the place my business. |
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| El Kay Dee |
| all it takes is one bad experience to change an opinion... |
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| Endlesswave |
| quote: | Originally posted by El Kay Dee
ummm so because say a DJ that I really wanna see happens to show up in toronto goes to play at TIL, that obviously means that I want to be part of the "in" crowd....riiiight.....ma bad |
Liam, he's saying the TARGET AUDIENCE for the club are those people that want to be with the "in" crowd and be at the "in" venue, TiL is (and was previously) considered by those that frequented it that type of club. Why would management who had taken over change any of this by changing dress code or who they let in? Age is another matter entirely, it should be ONE limit and they should NOT change it whenever they feel it's necessary as that is just retarded. I don't mind going, been there 2x, once before and once after the new owners had taken over, it was fun, not amazing but I had a good time, the only thing is if I go back I will get there super early and make sure I'm dressed appropriately. |
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| El Kay Dee |
well from the poll so far, it seems like theres a near even ratio of people that will go back to those who wont. few more for those going back...
i love stat numbers :) |
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by c2lancas
They would save money by hiring a less expensive dj, because they're not relying on the big names to attract their customers. I assume all djs are not payed the same. |
Sure, I just don't understand why they would do that. The DJs they bring in are attracting a fair number of people from the EDM scene in addition to their regular Sat crowd. |
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| c2lancas |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Sure, I just don't understand why they would do that. The DJs they bring in are attracting a fair number of people from the EDM scene in addition to their regular Sat crowd. |
I guess they might get a fair number of the edm crowd, but I don't think they'd have any problems filling the spots of the edm crowd if they didn't have the big names. So what is the justification for getting a well known dj who will only be truly appreciated by the EDM crowd, when you can simply get a less expensive DJ and fill the EDM crowd with the others. You still have the same number of people.
Basically if you're going to pay the money to attract the edm crowd, then do that and don't discriminate on age / clothes. You attracted people there for the music, now let them in to enjoy the music.
Or do both in TILs case, but you're targeting a relatively small audience compared to if you were to go one way or another. |
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| starsearcher |
You have to remember as well that there are lots of people out there that love EDM but do not necessarily fit into the EDM crowd classification as you define it...those are the people that would love to go to listen to a famous DJ at the Guv for example, but would hate the experience cause they'd think it's a sketchty place. You'd often see these people at the Drink and Skybar, or even Hotel...they want to listen to great house music, but want a classier venue...there's a huge market for that kind of place :)
I'm personally kind of impartial abou the the whole thing because I love going to the Guv, and at the same time I love getting dressed up and partying at the fancy venues :D |
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