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| HardTranceProd |
The UK is actually 4 different countries, only one of which is England, although it seems to be the one most often associated with the Kingdom.
What many people aren't aware of is that the cultures in these four are rather different. (I'm not even sure if Scotland and Wales are considered Anglo-Saxon cultures or not, can someone shed light on this?)
My question is, were the people who first settled the US pretty much the English? Or was it also Scots from the North, the Welsh, etc.? If so, what were the proportions? |
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| stevieboy32808 |
Americans are bad at geography:p
To answer you question, I'd have to say the English. If you observe throughout history it wasn't until the 1900's where we were starting to become friendly with the English after feuding with them on many occasions (wars). I'm a little rusty when it comes to this so spare me a flame or two. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
What many people aren't aware of is that the cultures in these four are rather different. |
if by 'many people' you mean 'many americans', then yes, many people arent aware of this ;) |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
The UK is actually 4 different countries, only one of which is England, although it seems to be the one most often associated with the Kingdom.
What many people aren't aware of is that the cultures in these four are rather different. (I'm not even sure if Scotland and Wales are considered Anglo-Saxon cultures or not, can someone shed light on this?)
My question is, were the people who first settled the US pretty much the English? Or was it also Scots from the North, the Welsh, etc.? If so, what were the proportions? |
What the hell is this "Wales" that you speak of?! |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by HardTranceProd
My question is, were the people who first settled the US pretty much the English? Or was it also Scots from the North, the Welsh, etc.? If so, what were the proportions? |
well i do know that the Welsh did establish the colony of Pennsylvania begining around the mid 1600's. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Scots-Irish immigrants settled in the American colonies from the 1600s. However, the first major migration of Scots-Irish to America was a group that came with Rev. James McGregor from County Londonderry to New England in 1718. They arrived at Boston, and many of them moved to New Hampshire, establishing the town of Londonderry.
The majority of the Scots-Irish who came to America in the colonial period settled in Pennsylvania, Virginia, and the Carolinas. Nonetheless, there was significant Scots-Irish settlement in each of the thirteen American colonies.
Many of the earliest Scots-Irish immigrants (of the 1720s and 1730s) first settled in Pennsylvania. Many then moved down from Pennsylvania into Virginia and the Carolinas. From there immigrants and their descendants went on to populate the states of Georgia, Kentucky, and Tennessee in the 1780s and 1790s.
There are a myriad of possible reasons for the immigration of so many of the Scots-Irish to America in the 1700s. High rents and religious persecution have often been blamed. Most of the Scots-Irish came freely to the American colonies, although there were also some who were deported as prisoners or came as indentured servants. Others came with British Army regiments and remained in the American colonies.
It is important to keep in mind that just because an ancestor came from Ireland to America during the colonial period does not mean that he/she was necessarily Scots-Irish. Many Anglicans, Catholics, and Quakers also came from Ireland during this time period. An ancestor from Ireland can often be identified as Scots-Irish from: family tradition; the surname; the given names in the family; association with other Scots-Irish; or identification as a Presbyterian. |
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| George Smiley |
| quote: | | An ancestor from Ireland can often be identified as Scots-Irish from: family tradition; the surname; the given names in the family; association with other Scots-Irish; alcoholism; ginger hair; very tight with their money; and ing dire at football (that's soccer to you lady boys!) |
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| Fir3start3r |
Vikings came first ;) woot! :toothless
[edit] I 'woot' because part of my ancestory is Viking / Scottish but the family came over to the New World via the British Hudson's Bay Company, slept with the natives and established themselves around the Red River Settlement (in the days of Louis Reil), now Winnipeg...
How's that for a convoluted ancestory...
It's been a long arguement but it's pretty well established now that C.Columbus was NOT the first to arrive... |
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| George Smiley |
| How do you know your ancestory is Viking?! |
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| Fir3start3r |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
How do you know your ancestory is Viking?! |
My last name, which is, "Inkster" has been traced back that far; it's actually Norweigian.
However, the Vikings were notorious for raiding the Scottish countryside and even to this day, Inkster is pretty prevalent in the Orkney Isles of Scotland (northern most part of the UK).
The British Hudson's Bay Company comes into the picture because 90% of the people they recruited came from Scotland... |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
My last name, which is, "Inkster" has been traced back that far; it's actually Norweigian.
However, the Vikings were notorious for raiding the Scottish countryside and even to this day, Inkster is pretty prevalent in the Orkney Isles of Scotland (northern most part of the UK).
The British Hudson's Bay Company comes into the picture because 90% of the people they recruited came from Scotland... |
Interesting.
As for the Americas:
You have mostly Englishmen (purtians) settling early on in the northern colonies as well as in the earilist colony Virginia, and Jamestown which was finaniced by a London company.
You have mutts coming all over into the colonies, especially after the take over of Manhatten from the Netherlands (a truly mutt colony). |
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| shaolin_Z |
| A somewhat related question, the terms UK, Britain, and England have always confused me somewhat. I tend to use them interchangeably to refer to "England," which ofcourse is kind of silly. I know the UK isn't just England. Could someone clarify these terms for me and which ones are appropriate refrences to what in formal and casual conversation? |
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