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what constitutes underground trance
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| pvdclubber |
if i'm listening to stuff like on "trance around the world" or kyau vs albert "euphonic sessions"
do you think this is still underground or not,
where does underground start? |
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| DOOMBOT |
| It starts in your basement. Hence the word 'underground'. Duh... |
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| pvdclubber |
| thx for the clever post, if your not interested in the thread don't reply |
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| Reactic |
| as long as trance is quality I don't care whether it is underground or not.. |
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| washout |
underground has always been relative to mainstream.
logically, if its not mainstream, its underground.
very simple.
the hard part is defining whats mainstream.
is it what u can find in a store ??
is it what sales in a store ??
because lots of doesnt get bought it a store.
have fun. |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by pvdclubber
thx for the clever post, if your not interested in the thread don't reply |
Sorry. I just don't think it is much underground anymore. |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
Sorry. I just don't think it is much underground anymore. |
Well, if you're listening to Armin all the time, you wouldn't think that there's any underground trance anymore. ;) |
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| Ishkur |
| quote: | Originally posted by pvdclubber
where does underground start? |
Underground is that which doesn't come to you. You must go to it.
Conversely, mainstream is that which always comes to you. Whether you like it or not.
Don't interpret this to mean that Underground dislikes advertising; it just dislikes blanket advertising to all, most especially people its aesthetes were not intended for and may even be repulsed or offended by it. Underground has a theme, an eclectic style, modus operandi and value system that it knows only a small segment of like-minded people will enjoy, so it selectively caters to only their interests. And that's all it's concerned about. Not money, power, attention, fame or its expanding influence, but just its mere existence. Its target demographic, likewise, knows about the Underground and will instinctively seek it out and enjoy it to satiate their needs. So it doesn't need to go to them. They will find it via their own methods.
The mainstream, of course, is for everyone, and will go that extra step towards satisfying the interests of people too lazy, too stupid, or too busy to go out and seek it out of their own accord. Thus: The mainstream will come to you. Unequivocably. You don't even have to get out of your house, or even off your couch. It will come straight to you, handed to you on a silver platter, open your mouth for you, pour itself down your throat, and even chew for you. You don't have to do anything except sit there and consume whatever the mainstream chooses to show you.
The people who don't enjoy this kind of culture enrichment are usually called "freaks". |
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| DOOMBOT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
Well, if you're listening to Armin all the time, you wouldn't think that there's any underground trance anymore. ;) |
You know damn well he isn't the only dj/producer I listen to.
The beautiful thing about EDM is that there is SO much music out there to be listened to. I mean, there is something new on a daily basis. So you really have to dig. I think as far as clubbing is concerned it has been brought out and controlled more then it used to be. For the music alone, it can really go either way anymore. That's my opinion on it anyway. |
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| nefardec |
| quote: | | the hard part is defining whats mainstream. |
Pick a person who:
a.) you think is a sellout
b.) you hate
c.) stage name rhymes with either:
--- i.) -iësto
--- ii.) -ydz
--- iii.) -obal deejays
--- iv.) -asgo
--- v.) -an + -ahl
--- etc
obviously this is meant as a half-joke
but i like ishkur's definition |
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| pvdclubber |
| quote: | Originally posted by nefardec
Pick a person who:
a.) you think is a sellout
b.) you hate
c.) stage name rhymes with either:
--- i.) -iësto
--- ii.) -ydz
--- iii.) -obal deejays
--- iv.) -asgo
--- v.) -an + -ahl
--- etc
obviously this is meant as a half-joke
but i like ishkur's definition |
somebody brought up tiesticles, made me chuckle |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by DOOMBOT
You know damn well he isn't the only dj/producer I listen to.
The beautiful thing about EDM is that there is SO much music out there to be listened to. I mean, there is something new on a daily basis. So you really have to dig. I think as far as clubbing is concerned it has been brought out and controlled more then it used to be. For the music alone, it can really go either way anymore. That's my opinion on it anyway. |
Well aware, though he is the DJ/producer that you seem to talk about most.
Also, to the original poster, I don't really think that TATW is that underground. I'm not as familiar with KvA's show, though I'd expect it to be similar. |
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