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| colonelcrisp |
high uses of mdma ie 1-2 pills every weekend for a long period of time, according to the german study, can cause a depletion of seratonin activity in the brain of up to 8%, which in that particular study they found that the users, after stopping use, returned to normal activity.
braindammage is not a scientifically proven side effect of mdma use. however bad quality drugs im sure willc ause brain dammage, as long as your not a moron and know what your doing. you can manage the risk of using the drug.
the nida research on extacy use is widely discredited by the scientific community based ont eh fact that its findings have enver been replicated by any other research team, their experiments were flawed, the were injecting monkes with LD50 doses of methamphetamine that they thought was actually mdma and the human study test subjects were never given hair sample tests to assure that they were only using mdma.
the german study used hair sample tests and only used the data from individuals who only did MDMA, ie filter out the coke heads, meth useres, speed users etc... as well as the fact that they were studying people using recreational doses, not borderline lethal intravenous administration.
the german study has not been re produced yet but there is currently a british team working on replicating the results.
most medical researchers have alot more faith in the german study than the nida research
Mdma has not been proven to cause brain dammage but it hasnt been proven to be safe either.
moral of the story is use responsibly, |
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| lex400sc |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
STFU noob. stop using big words to sound smart.... first of all Nrg2Nfinit knows his in this dept. ill vouch for that, i go to uni with him...
and beyond that fact, him and i have done a piss load of E in the past.... so i would consider ourselves experts in the field as it were lol.... |
cliffs: you're both retarded from drugs and probably had a few gay moments under the influence as well |
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| lex400sc |
hey look! i found another "expert", by your standards...
maybe you can compare notes!... and a massage! :wtf: |
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| kypez |
| quote: | Originally posted by extacy_bomb
Like I smoked up lastnite and now i am totally slow and not productive at all.
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Yeah that is usually what happens when you blaze up... |
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| lex400sc |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
high uses of mdma ie 1-2 pills every weekend for a long period of time, according to the german study, can cause a depletion of seratonin activity in the brain of up to 8%, which in that particular study they found that the users, after stopping use, returned to normal activity.
braindammage is not a scientifically proven side effect of mdma use. however bad quality drugs im sure willc ause brain dammage, as long as your not a moron and know what your doing. you can manage the risk of using the drug.
the nida research on extacy use is widely discredited by the scientific community based ont eh fact that its findings have enver been replicated by any other research team, their experiments were flawed, the were injecting monkes with LD50 doses of methamphetamine that they thought was actually mdma and the human study test subjects were never given hair sample tests to assure that they were only using mdma.
the german study used hair sample tests and only used the data from individuals who only did MDMA, ie filter out the coke heads, meth useres, speed users etc... as well as the fact that they were studying people using recreational doses, not borderline lethal intravenous administration.
the german study has not been re produced yet but there is currently a british team working on replicating the results.
most medical researchers have alot more faith in the german study than the nida research
Mdma has not been proven to cause brain dammage but it hasnt been proven to be safe either.
moral of the story is use responsibly, |
lololol, thanks professor :haha:
ps: my information isn't based on the nida hoax... in fact NO current theories are based on it. it was publically discredited in the same medical journal it was published in....years ago. |
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| Dopey |
| its so sad how much we know or think we know about mdma |
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| lex400sc |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dopey
its so sad how much we know or think we know about mdma |
it's not exactly ethical to test the drug for toxicity on humans, nor is it possible thanks to the rave act :o |
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| Dopey |
| quote: | Originally posted by lex400sc
it's not exactly ethical to test the drug for toxicity on humans, nor is it possible thanks to the rave act :o |
i meant this board |
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| E-xperienceXTC |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dopey
its so sad how much we know or think we know about mdma |
Yeah wtf??
Dont we have like 5 billion people in the world..and MDMA has been around for hella long aleardy!
Why cant they take a person who OD on MDMA and test them what happen to their brain and stuff!! |
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| Sunsnail |
| quote: | Originally posted by E-xperienceXTC
Yeah wtf??
Dont we have like 5 billion people in the world.. |
nope |
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| colonelcrisp |
there is a big difference between drug abuse and drug use. i know alot of drug users who lead normal productive lives. i know even more non drug users who are in retarded and useless to society. drug abuse can and does ruin peoples lives and screw up their heads permenently.
but as long as you dont abuse them, chances are youll be fine?
have you ever done E before? can you even base your stupid comments on experience?
if your just one of those anti drug people. do us all a favor and sit back and enjoy a nice hot cup of shut the up....
"drugs are bad mmkay" and "people who do drugs are retraded" statements do nothing to add to the conversation, especially when they come from someone who has no experience with them.
go on and keep beliving the hog wash that the DEA feeds you...
and for the record, the second study released by nida was discredited, the one where they state that mdma use can cause parkisons disase, or parkinsonian type brain abscences.... they retracted this study. but nida, which is a US govnt funded research program, has produced numerous studies on the effects of mdma and other ilicit drugs, which are currently the basis of most anti drug campaigns in the US. The reason why most scientists dont like the nida research is that they have very poor experimental controls, and draw biased conclusions out of non normal data. ie their results have a correlation far below scientific standars. When they did studies on people who used extacy, they used urine samples to acertain which drugs they had been using, urin tests are very inacurate, hiar sample testing is the most accurate method availible, and gives the clearest picture of the users actual habbits.
The german study of 2003 concluded that short term side effects from extacy in heavy users (people who drop 2-3 pills per week, every week) seem to be reversible in all of the test cases after about 6 months of not using mdma. they do not draw any conclusions for the long term effects of mdma use.
again get your facts straight. |
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| lex400sc |
| quote: | Originally posted by colonelcrisp
there is a big difference between drug abuse and drug use. i know alot of drug users who lead normal productive lives. i know even more non drug users who are in retarded and useless to society. drug abuse can and does ruin peoples lives and screw up their heads permenently.
but as long as you dont abuse them, chances are youll be fine?
have you ever done E before? can you even base your stupid comments on experience?
if your just one of those anti drug people. do us all a favor and sit back and enjoy a nice hot cup of shut the up....
"drugs are bad mmkay" and "people who do drugs are retraded" statements do nothing to add to the conversation, especially when they come from someone who has no experience with them.
go on and keep beliving the hog wash that the DEA feeds you...
and for the record, the second study released by nida was discredited, the one where they state that mdma use can cause parkisons disase, or parkinsonian type brain abscences.... they retracted this study. but nida, which is a US govnt funded research program, has produced numerous studies on the effects of mdma and other ilicit drugs, which are currently the basis of most anti drug campaigns in the US. The reason why most scientists dont like the nida research is that they have very poor experimental controls, and draw biased conclusions out of non normal data. ie their results have a correlation far below scientific standars. When they did studies on people who used extacy, they used urine samples to acertain which drugs they had been using, urin tests are very inacurate, hiar sample testing is the most accurate method availible, and gives the clearest picture of the users actual habbits.
The german study of 2003 concluded that short term side effects from extacy in heavy users (people who drop 2-3 pills per week, every week) seem to be reversible in all of the test cases after about 6 months of not using mdma. they do not draw any conclusions for the long term effects of mdma use.
again get your facts straight. |
:haha: :haha: :haha: you know what they say about assumptions... |
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