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Aliens, Crop Circles, Vampires and UFOs (pg. 5)
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yan
Uh... What makes YOU so sure? |
just take our planet for example.. convergent evolution
marsupial flying squirrels in australia, and the common flying squirrel in north america
both of them evolved seperatley not from eachother yet they look so similar.
(earth seperation made it impossible for these species to have common ancestors, thus evolution of them towards their specific habitat made it so that they look similar)
so this common example can relate to live existing again if it happend once just as long as the conditions are there. even in our solar system, we can see that europa has water and mars has methane.
it is definatley a viable posibilityy that with billions of galaxies and billions of planets. life may have, is or will exist again. |
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| L.E.N. |
So Yan...are you saying that we are the only posibility of life in the entire uncharted, endless (as far as we know) universe?
We cant even get past pluto let alone another galaxy.
Im saying I think there is something else out there somewhere...even if its just bacteria...its still life. I dont quite belive in the hollywood version of aliens...but I think it can happen. |
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| Sunsnail |
oh ok. I belieeve |
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| L.E.N. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yan
Once again, you're saying that the world is entirely random. There's more evidence supporting that there are rules and patterns throughout the universe than not. |
You said it yourself...a pattern.
That means somewhere it "lines up the same". Its consistant. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yan
Once again, you're saying that the world is entirely random. There's more evidence supporting that there are rules and patterns throughout the universe than not. |
there are certain species of archaea (single celled organisms) that can live in extreme conditions such as volcanic magma and extremely salty waters. it is possible for a reducing CO2 environment to occur if single celluar organisms are available to eventually create Oxygen as a bi product. more complex life can evolve and so forth as we have it on earth. It doesnt seem that far fetched. We have to think of it from the perspective that it happend once, we understand how it happend naturally through evolution so it can happen again. Whether we witness it or not is most likely not. |
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| Yan |
| quote: | Originally posted by L.E.N.
So Yan...are you saying that we are the only posibility of life in the entire uncharted, endless (as far as we know) universe?
We cant even get past pluto let alone another galaxy.
Im saying I think there is something else out there somewhere...even if its just bacteria...its still life. I dont quite belive in the hollywood version of aliens...but I think it can happen. |
I'm not saying anything. I'm just doubtful that we'll find anything, if its even out there, before humans are extinct.
Our opinions are uneducated, though. It's just a desire of yours that something would be out there. What a boring existence if there's nothing but dead out there.
| quote: | Originally posted by L.E.N.
You said it yourself...a pattern.
That means somewhere it "lines up the same". Its consistant. |
You're thinking of this too loosely and hopeful. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yan
I'm not saying anything. I'm just doubtful that we'll find anything, if its even out there, before humans are extinct.
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You hit the nail right on the head here |
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| Yan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
just take our planet for example.. convergent evolution
marsupial flying squirrels in australia, and the common flying squirrel in north america
both of them evolved seperatley not from eachother yet they look so similar.
(earth seperation made it impossible for these species to have common ancestors, thus evolution of them towards their specific habitat made it so that they look similar)
so this common example can relate to live existing again if it happend once just as long as the conditions are there. even in our solar system, we can see that europa has water and mars has methane.
it is definatley a viable posibilityy that with billions of galaxies and billions of planets. life may have, is or will exist again. |
Your examples are very good however they can't be solidly applied to the universe, according to scientists. The Earth is a one in a 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (+/- 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 :p) chance of everything coming together and causing life. HOWEVER, like you said with your second example, we don't really know all the different conditions under which life can be created. |
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| L.E.N. |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yan
I'm not saying anything. I'm just doubtful that we'll find anything, if its even out there, before humans are extinct.
Our opinions are uneducated, though. It's just a desire of yours that something would be out there. What a boring existence if there's nothing but dead out there.
You're thinking of this too loosely and hopeful. |
Hopeful....of what? I could care less if we live to find other life..I got bills to pay. Im just openminded toward it. I can neither confirm nor deny it being able to happen. |
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| Yan |
| quote: | Originally posted by L.E.N.
Hopeful....of what? I could care less if we live to find other life..I got bills to pay. Im just openminded toward it. I can neither confirm nor deny it being able to happen. |
But your previous posts seem to be leaning more towards the chance of other life being out there. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yan
Your examples are very good however they can't be solidly applied to the universe, according to scientists. The Earth is a one in a 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 (+/- 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 :p) chance of everything coming together and causing life. HOWEVER, like you said with your second example, we don't really know all the different conditions under which life can be created. |
wait.. remember there are alot of galaxies and in those galaxies there are solar systems.. there are more planets then all those 0's in the visible universe I THINK!
remember there is also the universe that isnt observable which contains much more tha we dont know about. Scientist consider this inconsequential though since if you cant see it.. it doesnt matter. So the question is.. is there life nearby? maybe. We need to do more exploration to get these estimates more accurate and more variables defined |
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| Yan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit
We need to do more exploration to get these estimates more accurate and more variables defined |
That's the right mindframe. |
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