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| Ian |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
Aphrodite. |
or going back 10 years, M-Beat :p |
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| Spacey Orange |
Smart E's - Sesame's Treet
| quote: | Originally posted by
Richard_23 - 16-Dec-04 12:45 PM
When we're young we think we'll live forever. Rebellion, risky behavior, experimentation with drugs, alcohol, sex,
cult groups, PLUR. Playing with fire is a normal part of growing up.
But as far as "Sesame's Treet" is concerned, it's simply not worth the risk. If encountered, I'd recommend its immediate disposal by fire. At the very least, keep it locked away in a safe place when not used sparingly and under close supervision.
A former roommate had no idea how close he came to being bludgeoned to death within days of bringing "Sesame's Treet." Seemingly unaffected, he played it over and over and over and over and over and over and..... |
i couldn't have written it better. |
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| Demoted |
| quote: | Originally posted by Protege
Yeah he did a remix and a dub. both own but I like it better without the vocals. |
Hah, I just got the dub version, and I still like the remix better. Those vocals are hot fire! The original version as sampled on Sissy's myspace isn't that great though :o |
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| Nsonic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
Jungle has jump-up for its cheese... well, that and John B lately. I think that whole 'clownstep' movement may have been given the cheddar label as well.
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Clownstep? whats that like? |
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| Lyle |
| Uniting Nations are the limburger of funky house!!! |
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| Lunar Phase 7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by djdk
I think youll find scouse house and UK hardhouse are different. Scouse house is horrible, usually bootlegs of pop tracks. Hardhouse is ok for a limited period of time. Yeah they might share the same oink oink bouncey basslines, but hardhouse is generally better produced and often has at least a little bit of imagination and originality behind it.
Also, Ive never considered John B to be particularly cheesy, Im interested as to why you guys think he is? |
Agree with you mate Scouse house and UK Hardhouse are miles apart.
And I always though John B makes some weird stuff, but man he can put a mix together well.
Anyone heard his Trance'n'Bass Mixmag CD? Its so in-ing-credible its unreal.
Plus his lable puts out good stuff too. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sykonee
House? Euro dance, obviously! But that's the good cheese. The bad cheese award goes to 'scouse', or UK Hardhouse, as it's otherwise known.
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As has been said, UK Hard House and Scouse House are miles apart. UK Hard House is essentially NRG or Nu-NRG or whatever you like to call it. Scouse house plays like slowed down happy hardcore that almost always covers or samples cheesy major-key pop tracks, usually reperformed by the good 'ole pitched-up chipmunk vocals. Also in effect are those ing awful white MCs. Present era Scooter are probably the closest non-Liverpudlian cousin of Scouse House.
| quote: | Originally posted by Demoted
I never said they were bad, in fact it some of the better produced DnB I've heard in recent memory. And the fact they can make some of the songs have a catchy melody like in Slam and Blood Sugar just proves how versatile DnB can be if most of the producers got their heads out of their asses. It's either this, or I just purely don't understand DnB. But one would have to admit that in the grand spectrum of the general DnB world, Pendulum would be labelled as the Tiesto of the genre.
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Yeah, I know you weren't slating 'em. My point is that people who compare Pendulum to Tiesto are probably ing idiots who resent "sell-out" (read: successful) artists in their sphere. To me, Pendulum's trance analogy would be BT: excellent producer and musician with lots of variation but often goes very close to mainstream fluff. |
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| Sykonee |
*sigh*
I guess only us folks way out on this side of the world have a tendency to call 'scouse' UK Hardhouse, for no better reason than most don't know the UK/European terms for it.
Of course, there's always that Tidy Trax stuff too...
RE: Clownstep
I'm no expert, but I believe it was a term coined when Andy C produced Body Rock. It had this distinctive bassline that kind of wobbled around. Most dancers who tried to match it ended up with legs that moved like wet noodles, which was quite ridiculous to bear witness to. Hence, clownstep. |
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| Ishkur |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
UK Hard House is essentially NRG or Nu-NRG or whatever you like to call it. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
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Is this down to your whole thing about Hard House not being real Hard House, or is it something else? Because I've listened to what you list on your guide as NRG, I've listened to what people from many sources describe as NRG and I own and have listened to a lot of self-proclaimed UK Hard House and it's pretty much the same thing. The only notable issue is that there is also UK Hard Trance which you'd probably lump in with NRG, where as it's treated as the trancey brother of UK HH. |
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| Ian |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Is this down to your whole thing about Hard House not being real Hard House, or is it something else? Because I've listened to what you list on your guide as NRG, I've listened to what people from many sources describe as NRG and I own and have listened to a lot of self-proclaimed UK Hard House and it's pretty much the same thing. The only notable issue is that there is also UK Hard Trance which you'd probably lump in with NRG, where as it's treated as the trancey brother of UK HH. |
Without going to the guide, what I consider Hardhouse is this
http://www.discogs.com/release/4456 |
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| SYSTEM-J |
Well Ishkur names BK, Nick Sentience, Fergie, OD404, Cortina etc. as NRG. Now these are hallmark names of the self-declared UK Hard House genre mostly enforced by Nukleuz and Tidy. If you say UK Hard House to most Brits, I'm pretty sure they'll point you at the likes of BK et al. I know this isn't true Hard House, but it's definitely what UK Hard House is generally defined as. |
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