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What is time? -- Does time exist? (pg. 3)
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| LuNaSeA |
ok i'm really stuck now.. if we define time as mass-motion, then technically aren't we manipulating time constantly? :conf:
i think i may have to break this down into
1> 'father' time (the general concept of all mass-motion, regardless of the frequency, quantity, velocity, etc)
2> relative time (like the bomb squad guy freezing the bomb with liquid nitro.)
god i am in a total WARP with this . talk about blowing minds. :wtf: :nervous: :wtf: :nervous: |
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| LuNaSeA |
| maybe i should post this in the CORe. :tongue2 |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by LuNaSeA
ok i'm really stuck now.. if we define time as mass-motion, then technically aren't we manipulating time constantly? :conf:
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Yes because we are constantly moving
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i think i may have to break this down into
1> 'father' time (the general concept of all mass-motion, regardless of the frequency, quantity, velocity, etc)
2> relative time (like the bomb squad guy freezing the bomb with liquid nitro.)
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Time is what a clock reads. Things at the same speed will see their time to be normal as well as all laws of physics, but objects at different speeds their time/size will appear to be different. |
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| kid nyce |
| is this physics class or what? |
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| LuNaSeA |
| quote: | Originally posted by kid nyce
is this physics class or what? |
far from it.. altho i really really really do wish i was the math-science kind of smart. i'm the writing/literature kind of smart. this is actually for an education class, basically on how to teach critical thinking through encouraging philosophical/dialectal communities of inquiries. |
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| LuNaSeA |
| quote: | Originally posted by sandstorm03
Yes because we are constantly moving
Time is what a clock reads. Things at the same speed will see their time to be normal as well as all laws of physics, but objects at different speeds their time/size will appear to be different. |
lee, you dont make sense here- you're saying time is what a clock reads yet you're also admitting to time being mass motion, therefore having existed way before the clock was invented, or even a sundial.
do u mean to say that a clock is what "tracks" time? |
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| Piet |
| quote: | Originally posted by LuNaSeA
that's also the 2nd topic i'm writin about- whether we are able to manipulate time. i say yes, to a certain extent and it usually has to do with ice lol. did you see alias yesterday? i never watched a show in my life and that show is like, KEY in my paper as of now lol. the guy slowed down the ticker on a bomb by using liquid nitro. he slowed down time! |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by LuNaSeA
lee, you dont make sense here- you're saying time is what a clock reads yet you're also admitting to time being mass motion, therefore having existed way before the clock was invented, or even a sundial.
do u mean to say that a clock is what "tracks" time? |
yeah thought so, IM me :toothless |
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| Frequency Mike |
| quote: | Originally posted by LuNaSeA
Yes. but... he slowed down the "ticker" on the time bomb and slowed down the result of the the explosion, so didn't he, in a way, slow down time? the bomb woulda asplodededed like 2 minutes before, so didn't he manipulate time by Means of the ticker? |
absoulty not! he slowed down the activation device... not time... time still goes on - if u stop a clock did you stop time? no u stoped the thing that we created to measure time - time is an absolute and reality,
someone else in this post said something about change being time.. thats wrong also you may need time for change to exist but you dont need change for time to have elapsed... they are not mutualy exclusive
also someone said something about man creating time... also wrong- we created different meathods to measure time.. not time itself duhhhhh- what do they teach you in college these days?! |
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| Frequency Mike |
| quote: | Originally posted by LuNaSeA
ok wait nachos, i got another example:
prehistoric man discovered preserved in ice. isn't that an example of manipulating time bc you're slowing down the motion of the mass? in any normal situation, the dude woulda been dust. or it can just be considered manipulating mass-motion. wait.. but by our definition, mass-motion = time, so manipulating mass-motion = manipulating time? :conf: |
no - ice preserved his body... it didnt stop time - its like mumification |
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| LuNaSeA |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frequency Mike
also someone said something about man creating time... also wrong- we created different meathods to measure time.. not time itself duhhhhh- what do they teach you in college these days?! |
this is a community of inquiry-- let's not say "you are wrong, you are right" and let's leave room for self-correction, explanation and clarification. we are all just conjecturing.. so let's not get immature, thanks. |
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| Frequency Mike |
| quote: | Originally posted by fr0st
freezing something has no effect on time. The only way one could effec time is by moving extremely fast.
TIme- a nonspatial linear continuum wherein events occur in an apparently irreversible order |
people always say that if u can travel the speed of light then you can get somewhere without any time passing... but that is wrong too... if you travel the speed of light it will still take u years to get to another galaxy - time still goes on..you're just traveling faster... what you are doing is saying that if i moved really fast to walk around to the other side of you then to u it "apears" that i manipulated time and jumped... but i haven't actually- i just moved fast... you are also comparing my perception to your... you can't compare things that are relative to others..you have to compare things within the same context
if you drive somewhere rather then walk somewhere.. you got there faster... u didnt manipulate time |
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