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What is time? -- Does time exist? (pg. 4)
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| Frequency Mike |
| quote: | Originally posted by LuNaSeA
lee, you dont make sense here- you're saying time is what a clock reads yet you're also admitting to time being mass motion, therefore having existed way before the clock was invented, or even a sundial.
do u mean to say that a clock is what "tracks" time? |
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| Frequency Mike |
| quote: | Originally posted by LuNaSeA
this is a community of inquiry-- let's not say "you are wrong, you are right" and let's leave room for self-correction, explanation and clarification. we are all just conjecturing.. so let's not get immature, thanks. |
im not being immature.. but if someone is incorrect in making a statment we shouldn't igore that it is an incorrect statment. if i say 2+2=10 and we base the rest of our conversation on that ... that's not constructive
this is a discussion and im making the point that a premise that was made is clearly incorrect and i provided an argument for it... i didnt just say "you are wrong" and hit post message without providing a valid arguement
dont be so quick to thing people are being dicks |
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| DJ Eco |
| you bring up an interesting point with the 2+2=10 bit... what if someone regarded as "challenged" and cant understand how 2+2=4 but really thinks 2+2=10... whos to say hes not the correct one while we are all just hiding behind our own comfortableness to accept what was handed down from the past (which could be wrong)?... just a crazy but interesting way to look at things thatll teach you to look at all sides of a story and not tell someone "youre wrong!" because everyone is different and maybe whats the color BLUE to you really isnt blue but only a word you give to describe it (which is wrong in the end), while the COLOR-BLIND one is the one whos normal |
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| LuNaSeA |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frequency Mike
im not being immature.. but if someone is incorrect in making a statment we shouldn't igore that it is an incorrect statment. if i say 2+2=10 and we base the rest of our conversation on that ... that's not constructive
this is a discussion and im making the point that a premise that was made is clearly incorrect and i provided an argument for it... i didnt just say "you are wrong" and hit post message without providing a valid arguement
dont be so quick to thing people are being dicks |
i'm referring to your comments like "duhhh" etc.. it's just unncessary, even tho it's sarcastic.
carry on every1. :toothless |
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| DJ Eco |
| quote: | | Originally posted by Frequency Mike also someone said something about man creating time... also wrong- we created different meathods to measure time.. not time itself duhhhhh- what do they teach you in college these days?! |
i think youre reacting to my point that the object of time, the translation of what time is, was created by man... i said this because whos to say exactly what a minute is, or an hour?.... the translation of time is man's creation.... the whole idea of saying the sun sets at such and such a time doesnt mean the sun set wouldnt set without us, it means we give a numeric time to something such as the sun setting or afternoon or morning, and THAT is man's creation... |
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| DJ Eco |
uhhh...
your head asplode |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frequency Mike
someone else in this post said something about change being time.. thats wrong also you may need time for change to exist but you dont need change for time to have elapsed... they are not mutualy exclusive |
Everything in space is moving whether or not it is still on earth.
Just because something is motionless in respect to earth doesn't mean its motionless in respect to the universe.
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also someone said something about man creating time... also wrong- we created different meathods to measure time.. not time itself duhhhhh- what do they teach you in college these days?! |
"Time is a thought or a measure, not a substance." |
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| nchs09 |
| quote: | Originally posted by LuNaSeA
ok wait nachos, i got another example:
prehistoric man discovered preserved in ice. isn't that an example of manipulating time bc you're slowing down the motion of the mass? in any normal situation, the dude woulda been dust. or it can just be considered manipulating mass-motion. wait.. but by our definition, mass-motion = time, so manipulating mass-motion = manipulating time? :conf: |
u slowed down decomposition because as said.. molecules as it gets colder... they move slower. once he is unfrozen.. it will decompose @ a normal rate. i guess technically its slowing down time, since ur slowing change. |
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| sandstorm03 |
A lot of people confuse the fact of "ageing" & Time.
Im 21 "years old"
If im frozen for 20 years.
Then defrosted I am 41 Years old.
But my body only aged 21 years.
The only thing that you are slowing down/stopping is the decomposition of your body. Not time
thats why movement is the true measurement of "time" |
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| Frequency Mike |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Eco
you bring up an interesting point with the 2+2=10 bit... what if someone regarded as "challenged" and cant understand how 2+2=4 but really thinks 2+2=10... whos to say hes not the correct one while we are all just hiding behind our own comfortableness to accept what was handed down from the past (which could be wrong)?... just a crazy but interesting way to look at things thatll teach you to look at all sides of a story and not tell someone "youre wrong!" because everyone is different and maybe whats the color BLUE to you really isnt blue but only a word you give to describe it (which is wrong in the end), while the COLOR-BLIND one is the one whos normal |
i still disagree with you.. jsut because someone perceives something and belives it to be true does not make it true
if a "Challenged" person thinks that if you take 2 things and add 2 more and you get 10 things and they belived this with the utmost convition it does not make them right... if your talking about semantics thats a different story..but the concept taht there are 4 things present is a reality
2+2=4 is provable its not comfortableness issue or a "think out of the box" issue... its comfortable cuz its reality
people need to realize there is a limit to relativism... people seem to think that they are "deep" or "intelligent" if they view everything in realtive terms.. i disagree... there are absolutes in the world - things are provable
if someone perceives something as blue when it is really red, they have perceved it differntly... it doesnt change the fact that it is what it is (the object is red.) |
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| sandstorm03 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Frequency Mike
if someone perceives something as blue when it is really red, they have perceved it differntly... it doesnt change the fact that it is what it is (the object reflects red light.) |
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| tiger2 |
why is it that the rate time passes seems to differ depending on what you are doing?
i think time exists and its passes at a steady rate, which for the convenience of our understanding we have assigned arbitrary measurements, such as minutes, hours, days, etc. what is manipulatable (sp) is our perception of time and its passage. |
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