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Adam Vaughan answers Jay-X1's questions! (pg. 3)
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by TO guy
doesn't the entertainment district include Bay Street though? You want that many voters that aren't clubbers? |
Its more than just clubs im talking about.
Do you know how difficult city councils make it just to open a restaurant? Did you know that ANYTHING you do is subject to a drawn out review if just one resident bitches?
We wanted to have a patio when we had our restaurant. Patio being a table and a few chairs (unlicenced) and we had to get approval after consultation with the neighbourhood.
GIVE ME A BREAK!
Maybe if we had had voting rights as well the rules might not have been so one sided. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by girllovingtvibe
Good job Jay!!! |
thanks :P
good to see you around again.... its been awhile |
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| TO guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
Its more than just clubs im talking about.
Do you know how difficult city councils make it just to open a restaurant? Did you know that ANYTHING you do is subject to a drawn out review if just one resident bitches?
We wanted to have a patio when we had our restaurant. Patio being a table and a few chairs (unlicenced) and we had to get approval after consultation with the neighbourhood.
GIVE ME A BREAK!
Maybe if we had had voting rights as well the rules might not have been so one sided. |
A lot of those municipal boards and regulations are set by the province though. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by TO guy
A lot of those municipal boards and regulations are set by the province though. |
depends on the regulations. But even in those cases, municipalities would tend to lobby the province for business rights moreso if they had incentive to do so.
And with the new city of toronto act, the province now has very little say in what goes on in toronto. |
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| Jem_hadar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
And with the new city of toronto act, the province now has very little say in what goes on in toronto. |
Anyone wondering yet why any other cities (esp near by ones) aren't expressing incredible OUTRAGE at all the power Toronto is being given here???? :conf:
I wonder if some talks have gone on privately... about other cities getting such power as well... hmmmm
God.... |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jem_hadar
Anyone wondering yet why any other cities (esp near by ones) aren't expressing incredible OUTRAGE at all the power Toronto is being given here???? :conf:
I wonder if some talks have gone on privately... about other cities getting such power as well... hmmmm
God.... |
Either way its bad news for toronto. These socialist bastards at city hall are salivating at the prospect of new taxation powers |
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| Jem_hadar |
| Mark my words that we'll see Missassauga getting such powers too in the near future! |
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| TO guy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
depends on the regulations. But even in those cases, municipalities would tend to lobby the province for business rights moreso if they had incentive to do so.
And with the new city of toronto act, the province now has very little say in what goes on in toronto. |
Well with the things you were mentioning, the LLBO, OMB ... you know what the 'O' stands for, right? |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
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If i had my way, everyone would get the right to vote twice in municipal voting. One for where they live, and one for where they work. This way, politicians would have to consider both the needs of residents, AND the needs of employees/business in the area when seeking votes and passing laws. |
I understand where you're coming from...but this really doesn't seem feasible. People only have one primary residence...work is another matter. Every voter lives somewhere...but not all work somewhere.
Some people work from home, some work at multiple locations, some work on the road, some choose not to work, some are students, some are retired, some work two or more jobs, etc.
It's logistically impossible... |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by MarkT
I understand where you're coming from...but this really doesn't seem feasible. People only have one primary residence...work is another matter. Every voter lives somewhere...but not all work somewhere.
Some people work from home, some work at multiple locations, some work on the road, some choose not to work, some are students, some are retired, some work two or more jobs, etc.
It's logistically impossible... |
each person gets 2 votes... if they are students, retired etc etc then they vote twice in the same district.
its very possible to do. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by TO guy
Well with the things you were mentioning, the LLBO, OMB ... you know what the 'O' stands for, right? |
of course...but guess who decides on who actually gets a liquor licence? Its not the O. And the municipal board is a disgrace that needs to be overhauled anyways. |
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| MarkT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
each person gets 2 votes... if they are students, retired etc etc then they vote twice in the same district.
its very possible to do. |
but then you run into a very unfair situation...
let's say you and I are neighbours...you're a lazy who doesn't work and I work in another region.
why should you get two votes with regard to where we both live and I (the productive member of society) only get one and have to cast my other one in the area in which I work?
I may not even really care about my work region, given that I work in an office and don't have a personal stake in that area as a small business owner may have...at least I certainly don't care as much about it as where I live (coincidentally the same area).
so logically possible or not...it's not a bright idea, IMHO.
let's give welfare receipients, the unemployed, retirees, students etc. more of a say in their home region than those who work outside of it?
um...no thank you! |
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