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what is the next big genre? (pg. 6)
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| Zombie0915 |
I've done alot of soul searching on this, and found that it wasn't so much melody that I was after, but rather it was synthplay, I guess these things are different. I would get bored of tracks that are so dominated by percusion and bass, and nothing else. It doesn't have to be a pop singalong suzy creamcheese, but it cant be JUST drumming and basslines for me. Rhythm is fun and all, but I like to hear interesting unusual sounds that are not just little blips and smacks or massive air shaking basses, there is alot of beauty in the mid and upper frequencies and sounds that sustain longer than a percussion that I feel aren't explored well enough because of the obsession with groove, bass, and beats, alot of that could quite possibly make a person dance.
Like the high pitched squeaky thing in BT - Orbitun Terrainium (I am always using this track in my examples, it just demonstrates so mkuch of what I am looking for) It isn't really a melody, it isn't really a percussion, it isn't something you can sing along to but it is a higher frequency sustained noise which makes the song alot of fun.
There is still something to be said for the spiritual feeling that lots of trance radiates though, maybe it is artificial and doesn't work after the novelty is lost for most people but I still get that feeling when I listen to the stuff. I know I sound like a retarded when I say that I enjoy those spiritual moments that people seem to get at those parties, but I just can't help myself, I have explored plenty of other stuff out there and it is what I keep coming back to because I have so much fun with it. |
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| Ry Diggs |
the next big genre will be deep house
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| Floorfiller |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zombie0915
I've done alot of soul searching on this, and found that it wasn't so much melody that I was after, but rather it was synthplay, I guess these things are different. I would get bored of tracks that are so dominated by percusion and bass, and nothing else. It doesn't have to be a pop singalong suzy creamcheese, but it cant be JUST drumming and basslines for me. Rhythm is fun and all, but I like to hear interesting unusual sounds that are not just little blips and smacks or massive air shaking basses, there is alot of beauty in the mid and upper frequencies and sounds that sustain longer than a percussion that I feel aren't explored well enough because of the obsession with groove, bass, and beats, alot of that could quite possibly make a person dance.
Like the high pitched squeaky thing in BT - Orbitun Terrainium (I am always using this track in my examples, it just demonstrates so mkuch of what I am looking for) It isn't really a melody, it isn't really a percussion, it isn't something you can sing along to but it is a higher frequency sustained noise which makes the song alot of fun.
There is still something to be said for the spiritual feeling that lots of trance radiates though, maybe it is artificial and doesn't work after the novelty is lost for most people but I still get that feeling when I listen to the stuff. I know I sound like a retarded when I say that I enjoy those spiritual moments that people seem to get at those parties, but I just can't help myself, I have explored plenty of other stuff out there and it is what I keep coming back to because I have so much fun with it. |
i'm familiar with that song...so i know what sound you're referring too. but listen to the song...it wouldn't be anything with out the wonderful breakbeat through out...that's still the driving force that makes it a great song. the way that all of the percs blend together along with the sound effects he adds...it just very cohesive. also i think you find things similar to what you are referring to more often in genres other than trance. these things take on a supportive roll in the song...but are still prominent enough to actually make things that much more interesting... |
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| Danny Ocean |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ry Diggs
the next big genre will be deep house
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i hope not, for the sake of the genre. it's already big enough if you ask me. |
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| Ry Diggs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Danny Ocean
i hope not, for the sake of the genre. it's already big enough if you ask me. |
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and it's gonna get bigger and bigger...no matter how much we don't want it to |
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| Ishkur |
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
Rocker was the first big hit within the (allegedly) underground scene. |
No it wasn't. |
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| Zombie0915 |
yeah I find what I'm looking for in different genres all the time, and I agree that the beat is really nice, but you can't take out everything except beat and bassline and still have a fun track, it seems ...plain.
I find that on the other hand there is lotsa environmental type stuff that is all but beatless and lacks bass that I still find quite enjoyable, so I have always leaned towards caring more about the supporting noises than beats and basses, not that it really matters though, just that I dislike when people spread around this idea that we can remove what I enjoy most from music and be better off.
It bothered me most in 2002 when everything was this low pitched proggy mess, just boomboomboom with one of those overfiltered bassy voices talking reallyreally slow, there was a long time there where you wouldnt hear a decent mid rage noise in any of those tracks right up until everybody started imitating airdrawndagger. Everything was standard ten minutes of brooding overly moody bass and drums, and the only alternative in town was DnB, everywhere I went nothing but drumming and rumbling, got quite sick of it, the DnB had more synthplay in it though, but still, got really old fast.
Every once in a while I still stumble upon those really nice break tracks that have some noise in them that makes me crazy, but most of what I hear when I go out it overly bassy and hip hoppish. |
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| paranoik0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ishkur
No it wasn't. |
Elaborate a bit further please. |
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| Zombie0915 |
six pags is enough I think, can we let this thread die before it gets rediculous? I have the information I was wanting, and we had some interesting duscussion along the way. After about 6 pages things always start getting retarded. I mean feel free to keep on talking about this stuff, but I've had my fill and I hope you guys will soon.
I am just getting a bad feeling, that this will turn into another 15 page flaming bashfest, and I just want to keep the discussion helpful, please. |
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| Ishkur |
| quote: | Originally posted by paranoik0
Elaborate a bit further please. |
Well, to start with, there's a whole load of things wrong with your statement anyway. To acknowledge Rocker's popularity but not Satisfaction's, which predated it by a good two years? ....why? Because as you claim, the former was underground and the latter was mainstream? What the hell does that mean? They're both equally commercial club records. They were BOTH underground releases that became mainstream due to the reception, however you want to slice it. But Satisfaction was a massively more successful hit, and really put the "ELECTRO" stamp into the public lexicon.
Again: It's Felix da Housecat that did it all, that finally linked electroclash (which was mostly a sleazy NY punk thing at the time) with house music. Kitten and de Glitz was the most important release to the growth of "electro" music in the last five years. Electronic music does not officially begin the year you started clubbing. |
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| Nrg2Nfinit |
alcaponed
electro got big with giorgio moroder noobs |
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| Minhaj |
Progressive Crunk
Skeet Skeet. |
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