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Trance Scene in T.O. circa 1999
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| Time2Burn |
Most won't remember but between 1996 and 1999 (approx) Toronto had one of the largest if not the largest rave scene in North America.
I wish our scene could come up with creative concepts like this again:
| quote: | "Extended Play" by Denise Benson August 26 1999
Another innovative outdoor event is tomorrow's staging of Icarus on a waterfront stage at Ontario Place. Billed as "the world's first trance opera," the performance features trance DJ and MC Steven Marshall, a.k.a. Another Astronaut, in the role of Icarus. The bill also includes music spun by Saint Pete, DJ Johnny Quest and Ottawa's internationally respected trance and progressive house DJ Max Graham. Call 1-888-677-4177. |
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| dEsidEL |
i remember the days when the scene in this city used to have some pretty creative ideas for venues and event concepts like the CN Tower for a Nitrous party, Science Centre for Citrus, and Roy Thompson Hall for the Nokia one ..
since then we've been surpassed by cities like San Francisco, Montreal, New York, and Miami just to name a few. it seems as if we've really regressed from those days. Where all we can look forward to now is the same old club parties with the same old formulas ala. UltraSpin, Labour of Love, etc. year after year after year..
in my mind this whole movement really died when Wintergalactic 2002 was shot down after their failed attempt. there are some really amazing venues in this city like Downsview Park, MetroCon, Fort York, Mel Lastman Square, among others which hav yet to be explored in this manner. i don't know whether it's the politics in the city to blame, the people, or just the fact that the well of creativity and vision has just gone dry.
again it's sad seeing how TO has so much potential for something great but really fails.. or rather no longer acts on it.
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Time2Burn
Most won't remember but between 1996 and 1999 (approx) Toronto had one of the largest if not the largest rave scene in North America.
I wish our scene could come up with creative concepts like this again: |
sadly the government and the media put a stop to all of that. I dont think those days will ever happen here again unless we get someone in office who will relax the bull rules.
People to thank for the horse that happened in 1999-2000
a) Liberal MPP Sandra Pupatello (Ontario rave act)
b) former toronto councilman Tom Jakobek
c) Chief Fantino
d) Toronto Island Residents (yes they were whining way back then as well!)
e) the media for sensationalizing everything about raves. Especially CITY-TV
And dont hold your breath. Its actually about to get worse
Not to mention that Fantino has been nominated to become CHIEF OF THE ONTARIO PROVINCIAL POLICE. Good times ahead! :rolleyes:
Its the rave crackdown that actually made me look at politics and started my political mind working. It made me stop and scrutinize just who exactly it was that was controlling our everyday lives. |
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| teufel-man |
| I think it would be pretty cool to see some kind of EDM event at Dundas square.... seems like a pretty good size, dont know how well it would work out though |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by teufel-man
I think it would be pretty cool to see some kind of EDM event at Dundas square.... seems like a pretty good size, dont know how well it would work out though |
the city would never allow it in 2006. Take a time machine to 1996 if you want stuff like that to happen |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by teufel-man
I think it would be pretty cool to see some kind of EDM event at Dundas square.... seems like a pretty good size, dont know how well it would work out though |
it's very dooable actually.. all of the permit rules are pretty clearly stated on their website at www.ydsquare.ca
all it really takes is for someone with enough initiative (and money) to put something forward. The venue has been used on many occasions for concerts, corporate launch parties, and political demonstrations to name a few.
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| Halycon |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
MetroCon,
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if ur refering to the convention centre.. i don't think it'd be a financially viable option... it's UBER expensive. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
it's very dooable actually.. all of the permit rules are pretty clearly stated on their website at www.ydsquare.ca
all it really takes is for someone with enough initiative (and money) to put something forward. The venue has been used on many occasions for concerts, corporate launch parties, and political demonstrations to name a few.
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until the neighbours have it shut down due to noise. Plus it would have to end at 11 no questions asked. Thats if you can even be insured as a rave. |
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| Jayx1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halycon
if ur refering to the convention centre.. i don't think it'd be a financially viable option... it's UBER expensive. |
convention centre raves used to happen all the time. As well as international centre. Once the rave hit the fan and the media sensationalized it the operators of those places refused to rent to raves and insurers refused to cover it. |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
sadly the government and the media put a stop to all of that. I dont think those days will ever happen here again unless we get someone in office who will relax the bull rules.
People to thank for the horse that happened in 1999-2000
a) Liberal MPP Sandra Pupatello (Ontario rave act)
b) former toronto councilman Tom Jakobek
c) Chief Fantino
d) Toronto Island Residents (yes they were whining way back then as well!)
e) the media for sensationalizing everything about raves. Especially CITY-TV
And dont hold your breath. Its actually about to get worse
Not to mention that Fantino has been nominated to become CHIEF OF THE ONTARIO PROVINCIAL POLICE. Good times ahead! :rolleyes:
Its the rave crackdown that actually made me look at politics and started my political mind working. It made me stop and scrutinize just who exactly it was that was controlling our everyday lives. |
it's funny since most of these laws can be repealled through city council (with the right councillors in mind of course). sadly i don't think people in this city are truly bored enough to want to change things by excercising their vote during election time in November. it's funny how a few hundred islanders have more organizational skills and political clout to influence city council in their favour when dozens of clubs, promoters, and thousands of party goers can barely save a venue like the Docks from being shut down.
if you asked me, the scene in this city is a lot smaller than people think it is or at least hasn't developed to the point that it's seen in the same light as other genres of music and art forms.
| quote: | Originally posted by Halycon
if ur refering to the convention centre.. i don't think it'd be a financially viable option... it's UBER expensive.
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yeah I was.. infact large convention halls, sports stadiums, and other large public venues are used to stage big music & art events in cities all around the world, let alone North America.
it could be financially viable, as long as the sponsorship is there and enough people show up.
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jayx1
until the neighbours have it shut down due to noise. Plus it would have to end at 11 no questions asked. Thats if you can even be insured as a rave. |
i believe the 11 PM rule applies to all public venues regardless of the type of music. what constitutes a 'rave' anyway? i don't even know if there's a legal definition for it?? you hit up some 50,000+ person festival in Europe and they don't even call it a 'rave' anymore.
here's an interesting read btw:
http://www.toronto.ca/legdocs/2001/...10924/it001.pdf
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| Jayx1 |
the rave protocal made it virtually impossible to hold events outside of licenced nightclubs. That coupled with the refusal to rent space led to the end of the parties that used to attract literally 10s of thousands of people per event.
I used to be excited about and happy to be in Toronto. That all changed about 5 years ago.
You should also look up pupatello's rave bill that was passed. |
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