Originally posted by Theresa
Yea, like the millions of Americans who believe/d that we actually started this war because of WMD, which have yet to be found, and has been admitted by the president himself as a mistake.
Seems interesting to me that a government that wouldn't really think twice about lying to their citizens to have them do what they want, would be so generously trusted without question by its people.
Well according to you there are two options. Blind trust of the government, and belief in 6 minute flash video conspiraciy theories.
I'm sorry, but I don't fall in either of those categories. And I doubt millions of other americans do either.
CONNERMAN2000
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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_
I dont get it. People SAW the plane hit the pentagon, yet people arent sure whether or not a plane hit the pentagon.
Clovis86
And if it didnt, where is that plane and what happened to its occupants?
Oh thats right, it desintigrated into the pentagon wall.
fbgdavidson
Theresa:
I'm slightly confused by your loyalty to these conspiracy theorists. You aren't willing to believe the government's side of the story because you think something is being hidden but are willing to believe a load of tin-foil hat wearing people who have attempted to pick holes yet when given even simple questions (where is the AA 757 and passengers) use diversionary tactics to convert you :conf:
As for AA 77, well it can be explained by some pretty simple physics. Energy cannot be created nor destroyed, it is always converted into other forms of energy. Consider a 757 can weigh anything in the order of 240,000lb for a medium range flight (it was flying Washington DC - LA), and would be carrying around 9000 gallons of aviation fuel for a trip of around 2300 miles. Travelling at around 400mph (I'm guessing here but it was hardly crawling) that thing has some momentum. Now fly it into a concrete fortress and you're going to not end up with very much debris, that energy it had is basically 'used' to rip the plane into pretty small pieces.(Some lively discussion from Airliners.net here)
As for security cameras, well remember the Pentagon is only a glorified office building. It isn't exactly Fort Knox, you can walk pretty close the thing right off the subway, and this was in 2003. That said it does appear as though there were cameras overlooking Route 27 that would have caught footage of the aircraft, I'm intrigued to see those, and apparently the 757 flew so low it knocked over lamp posts on Rte 27.
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If I'm honest I do find some fascination in reading conspiracy theories, both on 9/11 and other things, don't know why but it seems interesting that some people are never going to be happy taking things on face value.
I do find this photo of United 175 from letrolls911.org to be interesting partly because I'd like to know what is causing the light anomaly. I seriously doubt it is not UA175 with 'some military pod' attached like they seem to be claiming. If it is containing some equipment then why not stick it in inside the cabin where nobody is going to see it? It is painfully obvious that if you fly a 767 into the WTC then you are going to have plenty of people with cameras trained on the buildings as you fly ANOTHER aircraft into it!
I did the wrong thing once and asked on an aviation forum what it was and was flamed for instigating conspiracy theorists coming out. Appears it is light playing tricks and it is merely highlighting the wing to body fairing.
Sometimes conspiracy theories can be extremely wild. If you have a spare hour or are good at skim reading this one if weird (and no I don't believe a word of it!)
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yes, ive seen that before. give me one good reason why you trust a geriatric who can no longer see the end of his nose, who saw stuff on tv, over all the various investigators into the crash? you people are so gullible. i pity you.
id like you to tell me how all the plane debris got there. agents sneak in in the middle of the night and sprinkle it around did they?
the damage to the pentagon is perfectly consistent with the size and angle of the plane.
Clovis86
Not to mention that there was barely any wreckage of Valujet 292, which crashed into a swamp, not a reinforced concrete building.
Temperate
clovis man how are ya buddy
_Ocean_Drive_
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
sneak in in the middle of the night and sprinkle it around did they?
Yes. Yes that's exactly what happened :rolleyes:
superglo
no no you got it wrong.
they flew the pentagon into the plane.
psssh.
colonelcrisp
correct and the pentagon was piloted by captain and tenile
tiesto14
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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
and yet youre still assuming that they have something more useful. why are you making this assumption? what would you know about the video surveillance at the pentagon? you still havent proven to me that there is more video. i certainly dont want your assessment of it. show me some evidence.
the gas station video, assuming it shows anything, is the property of that business, and not the federal government.
because, unlike you, i dont care why they wont release the video (assuming there is one).
"willing to accept what ive been told" -what the ? youre the one that woke up to 9/11 conspiracy bull 5 mins ago, ive been doing research about it for almost 2 ing years. im not the one posting up a video full of poor research, lies & irrelevant conjecture as something thats made me question the official story of 9/11.
im willing to accept that a plane flew into the pentagon, other than that i couldnt give a .
what are you talking about? theres loads of evidence that a plane struck the building. see, now you really do sound like you dont think a plane hit the building. i dont need a video to know a plane did it.
the fact that the government wont release this phantom video isnt reason enough to doubt anything, except for maybe the pentagon's security surveillance levels prior to 9/11.
Dude, imagine there was no videos of the World Trade Center being attacked by planes (no home videos or news helicopters)...holy crap conspiracy nuts would have a field day...especially since ZERO pieces of the planes was found in ground zero.
Let Theresa think what she want...she is like a child that always asks "why".
pkc - I am going to the store
theresa - why?
pkc - to get a soda
theresa - why?
pkc - because i am thristy
theresa - ok, but WHY?
tiesto14
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Originally posted by Theresa
You are doing exactly what is expected from you; passively accepting the "truth" you have been told, and not bothering to stop and think for yourself and ask "why" to the questions unanswered. At least I am not so ing brainwashed that I can actually decide for myself that I wont just accept "because it is" when someone says so.
Typical lefty tactic to imply anyone who doesnt question (the truth) to be a sheep.
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Originally posted by Theresa
There is nothing wrong in asking questions, .
There is when the answers are in plain view.
You say there are 100s of videos...says who?
You say a gas station has footage...says who?
You say the government should release the videos to prove there is nothing on them...well why should they? If they released every footage of every crime to the curious minds of the deranged loony conspiracy nuts they would go insane.
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Originally posted by Theresa
do you rush around to hide the evidence to be sure that people don't think it was you? Doesn't that make you a little more suspicious?
Dont you think that if there was no plane and in fact it was a missile, like you are hinting towards, that they would of made sure to of broken into the gas station the night before to break the camera? I mean if they are so cunning to bomb the Pentagon and the Towers dont you think they have enough brains to break the camera prior to the attacks?
But no you think they sent a missile into the Pentagon AND THEN AFTERWARDS took the video to hide their guilt? LOL use a little common sense it usually makes conspiracys seem so ridiculous.
Reminds of the crack pots who swear we never went to the moon because in the news footage of it there are no stars in the background while they walk on the moon, so conspiracy nuts say it was in a studio...lol so they rigged the whole thing but FORGOT TO ADD STARS IN THE STUDIO? LOL so sad people buy into this ...oh and forget the fact that the Russians watched our every move that day.
