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EQing main trance lead (pg. 4)
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Diginut is more or less correct.
A compressor reduces dynamic range. Dynamics just means volume basically. 'Intensity' of sound.
A compressor is a dynamics processor because its action affects only the dynamic of a sound.
One of the byproducts of compression is more 'loudness.' This is not what a compressor 'does.' Rather, more loudness is a result of reducing the dynamic range of a sound, then applying post gain until the peak signal is the same as it was before compression.
If you dont apply any post gain and you set a really low threshold and a high ratio, you will notice the sound will become way way quieter. It will also have a much lower dynamic range because of the action of the compressor. I cant believe this is even up for debate unless we are talking about compressors that allow compressions ratios less than 1:1.
| quote: | | Using sidechain for ducking delay/reverb is ok, I tried it a few times.. but usually its too severe and not naturual sounding enough. |
Thats why you might want to use a gate.
| quote: | | Diginut, You've obviously done way too much reading of compression and not had enough hands on experience. If I wanted i'd make a demo of an absolutely flat saw with no dynamics at all, and show you how compressing it with another sound will add dynamics, but I won't waste my time. Someday you'll understand how to actually use compression, and your tracks suddenly won't be so lifeless. |
Hes more or less right actually. But theres no point in using a compressor unless the peak signal exceeds the compressor threshold, and you have a compression ratio which is anything other than 1:1. If all you want to do is lower the volume of a sound automatically, then just do it with a gate. |
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| mysticalninja |
| Hmm I'm not sure how i'd use a gate for the same effect, the gate will duck the reverb/delay below a certain volume, but I wan't the reverb/delay to duck when the sounds playing, and come back when you stop. A sidechained gate maybe? |
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| Jmanch |
| what are yall using to eq? |
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| RivalMan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jmanch
what are yall using to eq? |
Depends. But my go-to's are these:
Sony Oxford EQ for transparent corrective (technical) EQing.
Cambridge EQ if Sony Oxford doesn't do the job.
Neve 1073 for creative soundshaping EQing.
Pultec Pro if Neve doesn't do the job.
Besides these I have an arsenal of other EQs I sometimes try - just for the sake of experimenting. But most of the time, I find that I end up with one of the ones mentioned above.
The only EQ I NEVER use is the built in EQ in Cubase. It sucks.
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| Jmanch |
heh, I thought using the eq in FL studio was hardcore :P
thanks rival! |
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| dj_kane |
| quote: | Originally posted by RivalMan
The only EQ I NEVER use is the built in EQ in Cubase. It sucks.
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| mysticalninja |
I use waves LinEQ LowBand to boost bast, waves RenEQ and Voxengo Gliss EQ. I also use UltraFunk compressor for hard compressing cause it can goto 0.0 attack and Voxengo Marquis Comp is probably the warmest compressor you'll find.
| quote: | | If all you want to do is lower the volume of a sound automatically, then just do it with a gate. |
Hmm you mean a sidechained gate? A gate will just cut the sound off completley, sure you could set long attack or release so it never goes to 0 volume but also it needs to be relative to the other sound, so youd need a sidechained gate?
| quote: | Originally posted by wayfinder
What do you mean with that? Dynamics is something that describes a relationship between different times in a song, not between different elements at one time. |
| quote: | Originally posted by wayfinder
You're so convinced of yourself that you think you're dealing me a blow even when you're making my point. Well, live on in oblivion :) |
WayFinder, Sorry to tell you but you don't know what dynamics is. |
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| Jmanch |
| does anyone know why in fl when Im just about to eq some stuff using the waves bundle, FL's volume just whacks out (not to mention me having my headphones full blast) and sometimes i can't use the compressor nor the the limiters :(?? |
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| jey |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jmanch
does anyone know why in fl when Im just about to eq some stuff using the waves bundle, FL's volume just whacks out (not to mention me having my headphones full blast) and sometimes i can't use the compressor nor the the limiters :(?? |
i use waves diamond bundle and hav never had a prob, they are rock solid for me..... |
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| wayfinder |
| quote: | | WayFinder, Sorry to tell you but you don't know what dynamics is. |
MysticAlNinja, are you really that stupid? Dynamics = RELATIVE LOUDNESS. Relative to what? OTHER PARTS OF THE SONG. |
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| mysticalninja |
You have it now, but that wasn't your definition before, what did you mean with this?
| quote: | Originally posted by wayfinder
Dynamics is something that describes a relationship between different times in a song, not between different elements at one time. |
Both of those definitions are incorrect, and I wasn't implying either one, I don't know why you think I was. |
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| DJFreaq |
Oh my god. I thought this was going to be an enlightening thread about EQing. With perhaps some interesting insights from other people.
I was dissapointed.
I dunno. Sometimes when I'm programming a synth I find that when I'm using multiple synthesizers, there's a lot of build up in the 1kHz or 4kHz range. Which coincidentally are very sensitive frequencies to the human ear.
Also. Watch your 160Hz. 160Hz is the devil.
That's all I have to offer. However small.
Love,
Adam "The Wrzonantor On Oxycodne Cuz He Got His Wisdom Teeth Removed" Wrzeski |
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