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North Korea: UN Sanctions amount to declaration of war!!
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
So, what now?
| quote: | N. Korea apparently preparing nuke test
By BO-MI LIM, Associated Press Writer 12 minutes ago
SEOUL, South Korea - Satellite images indicate
North Korea appears to be getting ready for a second nuclear test, officials said Tuesday, as the defiant communist regime held huge rallies and proclaimed that U.N. sanctions amount to a declaration of war.
China, the North's longtime ally and biggest trading partner, warned Pyongyang not to aggravate tensions in the wake of U.N. condemnation of its Oct. 9 atomic blast. And U.S. nuclear envoy Christopher Hill told reporters in Seoul that another nuclear explosion would be "a very belligerent answer" to the world.
As the White House acknowledged that the isolated nation might try a second test, Secretary of State
Condoleezza Rice launched a diplomatic drive to persuade Asian allies and Russia to intensify North Korea's isolation by enforcing sanctions approved by the
U.N. Security Council.
Concern over a second test stems partly from new satellite imagery showing increased activity around at least two other North Korean sites, a senior U.S. defense official said.
The activity, started a number of days ago, included ground preparation at one site and construction of some buildings and other structures, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because it involved intelligence gathering. He said that although the purpose of the structures is unclear, officials are concerned because North Korea has left open the possibility of another test.
Japan's government also has "information" about another possible blast, Foreign Minister Taro Aso told reporters, without elaborating.
A senior South Korean official told foreign journalists that despite signs of a possible second test, it was unlikely to happen immediately.
"We have yet to confirm any imminent signs of a second nuclear test," the official said on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information.
In North Korea, the nation marked the 80th anniversary of the "Down-with-Imperialism Union" — a political platform on which the ruling party was built. North Koreans held parades across the country along with an enormous gathering at a central square in Pyongyang. In the capital, hundreds of women in brightly colored costumes sang and held bunches of flowers, including some named for Kim Il Sung, the late father of current leader Kim Jong Il.
The regime slammed the U.N. measures with a stream of bellicosity in a Foreign Ministry statement released on the official Korean Central News Agency. It was the central government's first reaction to the sanctions since they were unanimously passed by the Security Council on Saturday.
"The resolution cannot be construed otherwise than a declaration of a war" against the North, the statement said.
The North also said it "wants peace but is not afraid of war," and that it would "deal merciless blows" against anyone who violates its sovereignty.
It said it wouldn't cave in to "the pressure and threat of someone at this time when it has become a nuclear weapons state."
South Korean nuclear envoy Chun Yung-woo said the North's reaction wasn't surprising, and was full of "the usual rhetoric."
China warned Pyongyang against aggravating tensions.
"We hope North Korea will adopt a responsible attitude ... and come back to resolving the issue through dialogue and consultation instead of taking any actions that may further escalate or worsen the situation," Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman Liu Jianchao said at a press briefing in Beijing.
But now that the U.S. has confirmed that last week's blast was indeed nuclear, North Korea can be expected to use its new position as a confirmed atomic state to press for direct talks and concessions with Washington — as it did in March 2005, a month after Pyongyang first asserted it had a nuclear weapon.
Hill, the U.S. envoy, said the North was falsely assuming it would win more respect with atomic explosions.
"The fact of the matter is that nuclear tests make us respect them less," he said, adding that the North's comments about sanctions were "not very helpful."
The White House said it wouldn't be surprising if North Korea were to try another nuclear test "to be provocative."
"It would not be a good thing for them, but it certainly would not be out of character," said White House press secretary Tony Snow. "We're not going to discuss any particular matters of intelligence, but if you take a look at the record, I think it is reasonable to expect that the government of North Korea will do what it can to test the will, the determination and the unity of the
United Nations."
Asked why it would not be a good thing for North Korea, Snow said, "If they do believe that somehow people are going to give them a pass on this, they're going to find out that they're wrong."
While U.S. officials insist they aren't about to invade, they have taken other steps against North Korea — even before the U.N. resolution — including severing it from the international financial system. That move is believed to have angered the elites that keep Kim in power, and Kim may fear being ousted or possibly even killed.
The North has consistently pressed for direct talks with the U.S. on the financial sanctions and has refused to attend six-nation disarmament talks until the sanctions are lifted. Along with the U.S., the talks include China, Japan, Russia and
South Korea.
Now, the North has a new arrow in its quiver: being a confirmed nuclear power recognized as such by the very country whose attention it so desperately craves.
The Bush administration, wary of rewarding the regime's behavior, has consistently refused to talk directly to the North, insisting the issue is a regional concern and seeking to enlist other countries.
On Tuesday, Rice left for Japan, first stop on a four-nation trip, amid clear signs of unease in China and South Korea about even the softened sanctions.
China contends that interdicting ships, although permitted in the U.N. resolution, might needlessly provoke the North and discourage it from returning to the six-nation talks. South Koreans worry about a conventional attack by their unpredictable neighbor.
"Sanctions against North Korea should be done in a way that draws North Korea to the dialogue table," South Korean Prime Minister Han Myung-sook said, according to Yonhap news agency. "There should never be a way that causes armed clashes." |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| I REALLY want to see NK try to take on the US and China. It'd be history's shortest war. |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| Since the UN came around, wars have no longer been fought to the finish, but have been stopped half-way when niether side has claimed victory. This does nothing but allow both sides to fester, only to have a bigger and worse war later on. We went to Korea in 1950, and didn't finish the job. Korea was still split. I think we've given N. Korea all the chances they could ever have to cooperate with the WORLD. We should eliminate the North Korean regime and eliminate this threat before they have a fully-functional nuclear arsenal which they have already declared as their ambition. |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
Since the UN came around, wars have no longer been fought to the finish, but have been stopped half-way when niether side has claimed victory. This does nothing but allow both sides to fester, only to have a bigger and worse war later on. We went to Korea in 1950, and didn't finish the job. Korea was still split. I think we've given N. Korea all the chances they could ever have to cooperate with the WORLD. We should eliminate the North Korean regime and eliminate this threat before they have a fully-functional nuclear arsenal which they have already declared as their ambition. |
I completely agree with this evil, imperialistic, U.S. centric point of view.;) The gargoyle needs to be disposed of. |
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| LatinLover |
| IMO they just want the intl community to sit with them and talk :rolleyes: that is the only way that NK has to get attention and bring them to the table. NK has requested and they get denied everytime, so what is the only way for them to get attention? :conf: :stongue: |
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| _Ocean_Drive_ |
| quote: | Originally posted by Groundhog Boy
I REALLY want to see NK try to take on the US and China. It'd be history's shortest war. |
And potentially History's most devastating in such a short space of time. If America goes in (which I've no doubt they will :rolleyes: ) surprisingly NK aren't going to sit there and not retaliate. |
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| Fir3start3r |
War against who?
The world?
Good luck with that... |
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| Purple |
What is the defination of 'war' for NK? Will they nuke UN headquaters if they impose santions on them? Or invade SK?
Intermilan posted a while back not to visit: China, Japan, SK..
| quote: | Originally posted by InterMilan31
Dont visit: Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, West Coast of N. America |
I think its time for respective governments to issue out this travel warning too! |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
Since the UN came around, wars have no longer been fought to the finish, but have been stopped half-way when niether side has claimed victory. This does nothing but allow both sides to fester, only to have a bigger and worse war later on. We went to Korea in 1950, and didn't finish the job. Korea was still split. I think we've given N. Korea all the chances they could ever have to cooperate with the WORLD. We should eliminate the North Korean regime and eliminate this threat before they have a fully-functional nuclear arsenal which they have already declared as their ambition. |
It sounds so easy, doesn't it?
Think of how much this will cost (the soviet collapse ring a bell?), how many troops and engineers and operators this will require drafting (most likely the entire generation...), international criticism (they didn't say anything after we invaded afganistan after 9/11, but now everyone's bitching at us), what to do afterwards IF we win (it's their country, they're familiar with it and have built up defenses and put almost their pocket change into warfare), et cetera |
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| ::TranceVanDyk:: |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Shibby
It sounds so easy, doesn't it?
Think of how much this will cost (the soviet collapse ring a bell?), how many troops and engineers and operators this will require drafting (most likely the entire generation...), international criticism (they didn't say anything after we invaded afganistan after 9/11, but now everyone's bitching at us), what to do afterwards IF we win (it's their country, they're familiar with it and have built up defenses and put almost their pocket change into warfare), et cetera |
They've had over 50 years to rethink their entire strategy for why they lost.
I told a friend that it is no doubt that if the US takes on another theater of war, there will be a draft and conscription. |
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| tathi |
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taken from AUTA :p |
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| DJ Shibby |
| quote: | Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
They've had over 50 years to rethink their entire strategy for why they lost.
I told a friend that it is no doubt that if the US takes on another theater of war, there will be a draft and conscription. |
All right....
Read what I wrote again, you seem to have completely ignored what I was saying. I understand the issue with NK, and I'm raising questions regarding the potential problems that a US invasion would create...... |
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