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California Plus Boomers 'n Whiskers Part II (pg. 21)
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whiskers
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Originally posted by Collias
It's an analogy. You missed the point.

Anyways, I won't derail the thread any longer. Bye.



Don't worry, even cacti can't derail this thread. Derailment is the topic of this thread. Plus the more we posts, the farther your linked images go and no one's going to see them in two days.



One thing about jiu jitsu - you might hear a lot from others about it being "gay hugging" - especially the UFC style.

Sure, maybe it is a lot of male-to-male contact, but that's just the American culture being afraid of homosexuality and insecurity in males showing. When you're rolling, it's nothing like that, you don't ever think about it.
DarkAngel
quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
that's why you use your legs to lift heavy things and never your back.


Too true.
whiskers
Woohoo 240th post and 7th page!


We must beat the Colorado thread? :clown:
whiskers
ZOMG I saw some snow flurries today!

Can't wait to go skiing.
DarkAngel
quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
Woohoo 240th post and 7th page!


We must beat the Colorado thread? :clown:


I'm down.
Boomer187
quote:
Originally posted by whiskers

One thing about jiu jitsu - you might hear a lot from others about it being "gay hugging" - especially the UFC style.

Sure, maybe it is a lot of male-to-male contact, but that's just the American culture being afraid of homosexuality and insecurity in males showing. When you're rolling, it's nothing like that, you don't ever think about it.




yea, people tell me that all the time, but im past it all. I think its damn cool thing to know.


If I ever get enough time i'd love to train Mui tai and bjj, but that'll never happen. SO i might join a bjj gym next year sometime.
whiskers
quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
If I ever get enough time i'd love to train Mui tai and bjj, but that'll never happen. SO i might join a bjj gym next year sometime.


Mui Thai is insane, you gotta be really really fit to do it and you have to have crazy reaction times & flexibility (if you wish to do roundhouse headshots)

It's not as appealing to me, because it's impractical as a "martial art" (except maybe if you have an extreme desire to be good at street defense and obviously if you want to get out into the octagon ) - you can't really spar in mui thai unless you're crazy. It's a good cardio work out, but a good, simple cardio work out is a good cardio work out as well, if you know what I mean. And if you take away the crazy headshots, it's just kickboxing. Which is also good for cardio.

Point is, people who practice mui thai tend to do it for a certain purpose, so if you join a mui thai class you might find a circle of individuals who are immune to pain and don't mind the occasional hurting of one another, although I can't speak from experience. Kick boxing, on the other hand, is a safer alternative and you can even easily convince women to join as well, since they're usually up for a good aerobic session!


But again, everything depends on a person. I like TKD but I found that UFC fighting / BJJ is way more appealing to me since I got the whole "heavyweight" + strong (sort of) upper body going for me & I'm not that good in terms of quickness of moves. Still enjoy TKD but I absolutely love rolling. If only I could now memorize and actually perform a couple submissions instead of just defending myself...
Boomer187
yea ive had http://bjj.org/techniques/ bookmarked for a while now and occasionally try to memorize some moves. But its one thing to think about it, another to do it.


and I'd do mui tai for street fights....er self-defense in the streets. I guess I could just do it on my own, but I wanna get good at a tai clench. them are teh deadly.


Bjj just wouldn't cut it if my friends got into a bar fight. Im not rolling on the ground with anyone, head stomps suck. So I figure get some clenches, knees, low kicks, and some punchin technique in and Ill be better than most.
whiskers
quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
yea ive had http://bjj.org/techniques/ bookmarked for a while now and occasionally try to memorize some moves. But its one thing to think about it, another to do it.


and I'd do mui tai for street fights....er self-defense in the streets. I guess I could just do it on my own, but I wanna get good at a tai clench. them are teh deadly.


Bjj just wouldn't cut it if my friends got into a bar fight. Im not rolling on the ground with anyone, head stomps suck. So I figure get some clenches, knees, low kicks, and some punchin technique in and Ill be better than most.



BJJ is useless without practice. You can see a move performed a million times, you can permorm it a million times, but when you're in a real (not even dangerous fight) it will be almost impossible to pull it off.

I have to say, I would myself choose mui for street-defense. BJJ is good if you're one on one.

Best defense around though is running fast. But if you can't run, then you better be good at keeping your distance / not being surrounded (mui + tkd), quick to react, and if you're on the ground BJJ HANDS DOWN. Ball shots and solar plexus shots do the trick. Sure, if you know how to, you can hurt someone really badly, but are you ready for such a responsibility?

And NEVER go against a knife.

Interesting article: http://myninjaplease.com/?p=363

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The winner was boxer Steve Petramale, whose strike delivered about 1,000 pounds of impact force, the equivalent of swinging a sledgehammer into someone's face.

Next, the researches tested the power of various kicks. They found that a tae kwon do spinning back kick delivered more than 1,500 pounds of force, while a kung fu flying double kick delivered about 1,000.

The undisputed winner though, which should not come as a surprise to anyone who follows martial arts, was a practitioner of the lethal art of Muay Thai Former two-time Muay Thai world champion Melchor Menor
An impact with power equal to a 35mph car crash!



http://www9.nationalgeographic.com/...ence/index.html actual show website


Spinning back kick in a fight? I'd like to see you try: http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cfnxt7LTpZk
whiskers



"Brazilian jiu jitsu legend Rickson Gracie performs a painful elbow lock technique, stopping just short of dislocating the joint."

lolzors, they're calling the armbar an "elbow lock" and he's nowhere close to "dislocating the joint". His left leg is still in the air, ffs.




"Motion-capture reveals the impact of a muay Thai knee strike, which hits the human body with the force of a 35-mile-per-hour (56- kilometers-per-hour) car crash."


Now that's just disturbing.

http://www9.nationalgeographic.com/...deoPreview.html

Awesome!! Can't believe they actually got Rickson Gracie for this!

DarkAngel
OMGBBQ.
Boomer187
quote:
Originally posted by whiskers
His left leg is still in the air, ffs.



I think it was the matt hughes georges st pierre part 1 where hughes had the same arm bar, one leg across the face and the other was bent up with his toes by GSP's shoulder blade. so its lika modified arm bar....maybe
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