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Noob in music making (like, TOTAL noob) (pg. 4)
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| Derivative is right, though. That's why when I give people advice about this, I never say anything like, "Go out and buy Logic and Reaktor and a Virus TI or else you'll never make anything decent!" The main limiting factor in how well you can make any kind of music will always be your own willingness to learn new techniques and to put those techniques into practice over and over again, not -- especially these days -- what equipment you purchase. |
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| PsyTiax |
But could you just tell me WHEN I said that I was going to buy anything but a 100$ MIDI controller ?
I've just ASKED if I could need anything else, people answered to this, and I've said that I'll stay with this material ATM... |
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| PsyTiax |
Thank you, ********
| quote: | Originally posted by ********
What is your budget/capacity?
How much are you willing to spend on your hobby.
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As I said, I won't spent more than those 100 bucks 'till I see if I catch with music making, if I do then I'll surely be quite happy to send you some mails ;) |
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| PsyTiax |
I'm starting to understand how Ableton works (even if I can't do alot of creation as I haven't received my MIDI controller yet), and I trully fell in love with the simplicity of creating a track "on the fly"...
Are the others software (FL, Real & Cubase) also so pleasing to use for this "improvising" stuff ? Or is this an Albeton specifity ? |
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| Derivative |
| quote: | Originally posted by PsyTiax
You surely like to blame people, don't you ? I told you that even my TEACHER couldn't pull any acceptable sound from my guitar, not only because it was a low budget one, but because it was BENT, how was I supposed to do anything with such a thing ? |
I'm not blaming anyone. The onus is on you, not me or anyone else on this forum. If your guitar had a twisted neck this is a manufacturing defect which will prevent the guitar from intonating properly. It is not an adequate excuse to stop playing guitar. It is a very good excuse to send the guitar back for a replacement so you can get what you paid for - a guitar that doesn't have permanent intonation problems straight out of the box. If you twisted the neck yourself from a truss rod adjustment then thats too bad.
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If I am destined to miserably fail and waste tons of money, then so be it, maybe I'll be smarter next time... 'Till then, I SURELY don't need you telling me that I can get famous by slapping on my laps, because I truly don't give a ... If someone managed to become famous this way, good for him, [ I ] DON'T intend to go pro, I'd like to product my music for MY pleasure, to share it with friends, and I'm still utterly convinced that, as a begginer, I'm not forced to buy the worst, tiest piece of hardware that's on the market, even if you're trying to make this look like a in' tradition... There's a difference between buying and buying a good BEGGINER MIDI controller... |
Look buddy, whatever I said should not be taken personally because it isn't meant to be. Many people here have no problem helping others, myself included. Many of us can't be arsed to help people who cannot be arsed themselves though. Have you done any research at all into midi controllers? Do you even know what you want out of it, beyond some keys you can mash?
I'll wager that regardless of your situation you wan't your music to be good. Otherwise whats the point? At least I'm not kidding you that you can get a 'pro' sound by spending a fat wad on this synth and this midi controller, and this digital audio workstation. It doesn't work like that. That would be the worst advice anyone could possibly give you - just fob you off with some gear. If your heart isn't in it, make no mistake, it doesn't matter what gear you have, you will struggle to make anything that doesn't sound like crap.
I personally think this is advice which will save you time, money and alot of days spent thinking: 'just why did I waste my hard earned cash on this stuff? Its not going anywhere.'
With that out of the way - what kind of sound are you looking for? Do you plan on recording from outboard? Do you plan on doing everything digitally? On computer? Do you need hands on control? Are you willing to spend more than your budget allows in order to get equipment which better suits your needs? Would you consider buying a synthesizer/midi controller all in one solution (which is obviously more expensive than just a midi controller)? Do you need a keyboard to go with that midi controller? It helps to be specific. Vague questions such as the one you posed in the original post are a dime a dozen on this forum and 9 out of 10 of those posters don't seem to stay here for very long. |
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| PsyTiax |
Jesus, your telling me that I need to be more specific with my questions, but in your 40 lines text you didn't even managed to answer to the question I asked ONE post above...
Maybe you're not as wicked as you look like, but there's something you have to understand, the people who answered to my questions instead of critizing me for them really helped me to get better in this stuff, YOU surely did nothing but wasting your time, which is kinda funny, as your time seems so precious :D
The people (from this forum or IRL) who helped me helped me quite well, I now have a basic MIDI controller and a low-medium SC for my laptop, I've already managed to pull out some things I truly like (nothing special, I'm like a 3 years old boy who would have managed to finish his first puzzle), and that was exactly what I was looking for, I didn't spent so much money and I don't intend to spent more 'till I truly feel the need to do it...
Thanks for your (past, present & future !) good advices everyone ;) |
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| ZxZDeViLZxZ |
| uhh lasttime i checked a midi controller was a midi keyboard |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by ZxZDeViLZxZ
uhh lasttime i checked a midi controller was a midi keyboard |
Last time I checked it wasn't the only type of midi controller. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| quote: | Originally posted by PsyTiax
I'm starting to understand how Ableton works (even if I can't do alot of creation as I haven't received my MIDI controller yet), and I trully fell in love with the simplicity of creating a track "on the fly"...
Are the others software (FL, Real & Cubase) also so pleasing to use for this "improvising" stuff ? Or is this an Albeton specifity ? |
Only Ableton uses the "clip-based" format, if that is what you're talking about. |
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| PsyTiax |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
Only Ableton uses the "clip-based" format, if that is what you're talking about. |
Thanks, now I know that begginning with this software wasn't a mistake :)
BTW: It is a MIDI Keyboard indeed, sorry to haven't been more specific ! |
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| KILLEMALL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Derivative
I'm not blaming anyone. The onus is on you, not me or anyone else on this forum. If your guitar had a twisted neck this is a manufacturing defect which will prevent the guitar from intonating properly. It is not an adequate excuse to stop playing guitar. It is a very good excuse to send the guitar back for a replacement so you can get what you paid for - a guitar that doesn't have permanent intonation problems straight out of the box. If you twisted the neck yourself from a truss rod adjustment then thats too bad.
Look buddy, whatever I said should not be taken personally because it isn't meant to be. Many people here have no problem helping others, myself included. Many of us can't be arsed to help people who cannot be arsed themselves though. Have you done any research at all into midi controllers? Do you even know what you want out of it, beyond some keys you can mash?
I'll wager that regardless of your situation you wan't your music to be good. Otherwise whats the point? At least I'm not kidding you that you can get a 'pro' sound by spending a fat wad on this synth and this midi controller, and this digital audio workstation. It doesn't work like that. That would be the worst advice anyone could possibly give you - just fob you off with some gear. If your heart isn't in it, make no mistake, it doesn't matter what gear you have, you will struggle to make anything that doesn't sound like crap.
I personally think this is advice which will save you time, money and alot of days spent thinking: 'just why did I waste my hard earned cash on this stuff? Its not going anywhere.'
With that out of the way - what kind of sound are you looking for? Do you plan on recording from outboard? Do you plan on doing everything digitally? On computer? Do you need hands on control? Are you willing to spend more than your budget allows in order to get equipment which better suits your needs? Would you consider buying a synthesizer/midi controller all in one solution (which is obviously more expensive than just a midi controller)? Do you need a keyboard to go with that midi controller? It helps to be specific. Vague questions such as the one you posed in the original post are a dime a dozen on this forum and 9 out of 10 of those posters don't seem to stay here for very long. |
well said there irish brother |
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| G-Con |
I think a lot of people on here are being a bit unfair towards the thread starter. He asked what he needs. Few of us recommended software good for starting out - ableton, reason etc. We also said maybe get cheap midi controller. He said thats great, he didnt wanna spend too much. then all of a sudden some people pipe in, saying how there's no point in spending loads of money on expensive stuff when he's just starting out and that he shouldnt think that fancy gear is gonna make him a good producer.
I don't recall anyone telling him to spend loads and i dont recall him saying he wanted to go out and spend loads.
Deriative - what you say is correct but i dont think it applied one bit to this post. |
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