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UCLA police taser a student (pg. 14)
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| mezzir |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Ya know, tiesto, I was actually agreeing with your arguments so far, but this is where that agreement ends.
What the does liberal vs. conservative have anything to do with this incident? You don't think conservatives, or especially libertarians shouldn't be disappointed or even upset over our law enforcement overstepping their boundaries? Should a conservative or libertarian (and I'm not joining the two together by that statement, btw) think it's just swell that our law enforcement might be infringing upon a person's basic rights here? Do political whinings and bull fingerpoints on libruls versus conservatives have any context at all with this incident?
Do you really want to approach this from this logically inconsistent angle, or can we keep to the discussion without any silly political leanings? |
lol thats the problem with this bull
every time we (liberals) state something, it seems like tiesto needs to either state that what we said is completely untrue, irrelevant, or besides the point
just because we have different political views doesn't mean we have to disagree on everything
now that the plur part's out of the way, tiesto: shut the up
you're wrong |
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| Clovis |
| I got a pair of red x's, I guess I'll wait for the flop! |
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| Psy-T |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
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slightly off topic:
considering that it's not very easy to leave your country and to have a serious effect by yourself on the laws of your country, an individual sometimes only has two options, to comply or to resist.
can you show how choosing to comply is always the most beneficial course of action for the individual? or at the very least, how it is by default the most beneficial course of action for the individual? |
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| all-nite-freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by dallastar
Awwww, poor fukkin , having a bad day? So you decide to be an to the only girl you love to insult and vent on in the cOr? serioulsy Fuk of ANF, your mother obviously didn't teach you how to be civil, kooth or how to treat a women with respect. |
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| dallastar |
| quote: | Originally posted by all-nite-freak
moo?:thepirate |
seriously, fuk off, grow up, & talk about the issue at hand or get the fuk out!:D |
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| all-nite-freak |
| where we talking about tasers or when animals attack?;) |
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| Fir3start3r |
If someone of authority tells you to do something, you better damn well do it.
I don't necessarily agree with that level of tazering either, however, you don't mouth off authority AFTER being tazered a couple of times.
Did he think he was being smart or something?
Sure he would have been pissed off for being tazered to begin with (who wouldn't?) but he obviously choose the wrong path in trying to be defiant.
If you don't agree with me, next time you get pulled over by a cop, try the same path this goof did and see how far you get.
And yes he did say he was going to leave, so why not just do it?:conf:
As for the officers, personally, a couple of tazersings and then carry the idiot out; it's not like they couldn't have.
I'd wait for the full inquiry as well but I'm going to guess there might be some reprimand for the officer with the tazer and as for the student, being asked a hundred times to stand up when you're still mouthing off, isn't too bright. |
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| Akridrot |
Apparently, nearly all of us are wrong. You know there's more than one side to a story right? Well here's the other side (eye witnesses, sober people and such):
http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/s...36&page=1&pp=10
DAMN IT. The guy probably did deserve every jolt of pain sent into his body, and now we're mad at the wrong people. :whip: |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Psy-T
slightly off topic:
considering that it's not very easy to leave your country and to have a serious effect by yourself on the laws of your country, an individual sometimes only has two options, to comply or to resist.
can you show how choosing to comply is always the most beneficial course of action for the individual? or at the very least, how it is by default the most beneficial course of action for the individual? |
Well I hope I'm understanding your question here, but I guess my default answer is to comply with those law enforcers who have authority to detain you, question you, or subdue (sp?) you if necessary. I don't have statistics with me on this, nor would I know exactly where to get them, but more often than not I think it would be benefitical to everyone involved at least here in the U.S. for a person in question to comply with the officer at that moment rather than resist them regardless of whether or not your rights are being infringed at that moment. If that person in question feels his rights are being infringed upon after that point, that is where police complaints (i.e. getting badge numbers) as well as his day in court is supposed to take care of such infringements.
Does this always work out well? Of course not, and there's always going to be situations to which a person's rights will not be granted even after a day in court. But I do suspect that is the rare exception and not the rule - but I have little to support that notion admittely. |
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| Marc Summers |
“Here’s your Patriot Act, here’s your in’ abuse of power…”
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Poor kid doesn't realize the patriot act doesn't deal with the circumstances that took place.
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| Clovis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Akridrot
Apparently, nearly all of us are wrong. You know there's more than one side to a story right? Well here's the other side (eye witnesses, sober people and such):
http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/s...36&page=1&pp=10
DAMN IT. The guy probably did deserve every jolt of pain sent into his body, and now we're mad at the wrong people. :whip: |
I was about to have a change in opinion untill I repeatedly heard "whacko nutjob liberals" etc spewing from every single persons mouth in that discussion. Its not hard to see where their prejudices lie. |
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| Groundhog Boy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Akridrot
Apparently, nearly all of us are wrong. You know there's more than one side to a story right? Well here's the other side (eye witnesses, sober people and such):
http://messageboard.tuckermax.com/s...36&page=1&pp=10
DAMN IT. The guy probably did deserve every jolt of pain sent into his body, and now we're mad at the wrong people. :whip: |
I want more witnesses than someone who posts on the Tucker Max forum. If you don't know why, then you don't know much about Tucker Max. |
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