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Denon DNS1000 vs CDJ 200 (pg. 3)
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| SteveMKIIDub |
| Just to toss this out.. if your mixing more genres then just trance...would the pitch increments be less important and the DNS1000's effects and scratching become more significant???? |
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| i got big pants |
| quote: | Originally posted by SteveMKIIDub
Just to toss this out.. if your mixing more genres then just trance...would the pitch increments be less important and the DNS1000's effects and scratching become more significant???? |
i think with any genre, pitch incriments CAN be important, but not a necessity. ie...rap/hip hop. more of a quick cut than an actual long drawn out transition like trance or house. heard people who scratch use fx such as echo and stuff.
i spin dnb and personally sometimes it makes a difference while at other times it doesnt...i don't even use the fx on the thing unless im just screwing around for the hell of it. |
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
If you can't mix on .1 with pitch bend buttons you probably just plain can't mix. |
i can mix on my old Stanton STR8-80 turntables with a wavery ass pitch that has me correct for no reason ever so often... by why on earth would i want to? |
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by SteveMKIIDub
Just to toss this out.. if your mixing more genres then just trance...would the pitch increments be less important and the DNS1000's effects and scratching become more significant???? |
it's not a genre-specific issue. it's a technique-specific issue. if you're looking to hold mixes for longer periods of time, then yes it is an issue. if you're cutting and switching rapidly, less of an issue. |
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| deejaymara |
| quote: | Originally posted by hiram
just got my 200s! |
yayyy! make me another mix... :D |
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| Zild |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
i can mix on my old Stanton STR8-80 turntables with a wavery ass pitch that has me correct for no reason ever so often... by why on earth would i want to? |
That isn't a good comparison. The DNS1000s are extremely easy to mix on was my main point. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Zild
That isn't a good comparison. The DNS1000s are extremely easy to mix on was my main point. |
yup. and once again, it's not like the s1000's can't hold their pitch, like those belt drive str-80's or whatever. if they couldn't then i think anyone would suggest getting different decks. |
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| stevebutabi |
Look, it all depends on how advanced you are as a DJ, and your style. If you mix in tracks with 1 minute or 30 seconds to go on the previous track, you can easily get away with .1 increments.
However, if you mix tracks not just to make transitions but to actually MIX them - as in blend - you absolutely require more precise instruments. You may not need .02, but that level will give you the capacity to become more and more creative with your mixing. |
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| Christian Ö. |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevebutabi
If you mix in tracks with 1 minute or 30 seconds to go on the previous track, you can easily get away with .1 increments.
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No, not with-out touching pitch bend |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by stevebutabi
Look, it all depends on how advanced you are as a DJ, and your style. If you mix in tracks with 1 minute or 30 seconds to go on the previous track, you can easily get away with .1 increments.
However, if you mix tracks not just to make transitions but to actually MIX them - as in blend - you absolutely require more precise instruments. You may not need .02, but that level will give you the capacity to become more and more creative with your mixing. |
it depends on the songs you're mixing. sometimes the two tracks just fit and you don't have to touch anything. other times you have to correct more often. either way, you don't need "more precise instruments" to achieve a mix longer than 1 minute. case in point: sample of a mix i did about two months ago (/shameless self promotion)
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3 minute "blend" all done on a pair of S1000's. i had to use pitch bend but the mix still worked. i'm assuming you'd have to pitch bend occasionally even with .05 pitch too, just not as much. either way, there's no way around correcting. with or without .05 pitch. |
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| stevebutabi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Omega_Blue
it depends on the songs you're mixing. sometimes the two tracks just fit and you don't have to touch anything. other times you have to correct more often. either way, you don't need "more precise instruments" to achieve a mix longer than 1 minute. case in point: sample of a mix i did about two months ago (/shameless self promotion)
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3 minute "blend" all done on a pair of S1000's. i had to use pitch bend but the mix still worked. i'm assuming you'd have to pitch bend occasionally even with .05 pitch too, just not as much. either way, there's no way around correcting. with or without .05 pitch. |
With .02 pitch, you do not have to use the platter if you have the tracks mixed properly.
Why be limited by having to mix tracks that 'just fit' in terms of beatmatching? That shouldn't be a constraint on your mixing, and you should spend your time finding tracks that mix in more important ways; that will make you a better dj. ;) |
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