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| dallastar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spike
id love to kick that piece of in the mouth |
me too! come to toronto and we will kick his filthy ass! such a fukkin prick!:( :( :( :(
I think I did the right thing, right? |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spike
yeah but arnt we just animals too? what right do we have of saying we're more important than any other species....especially when theres smthn like 6 billion of us! |
Rights aren't universal... they are constructed. So in a universal sense no one has the right to anything... freedom of speech, freedom of thought etc... these are concepts perpetuated by the system that allow society to function. So long as the majority.. or rather those that create dominant paradigms believe we have the right to conduct animal testing then we have that right. |
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| Sunsnail |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spike
yeah but arnt we just animals too? what right do we have of saying we're more important than any other species....especially when theres smthn like 6 billion of us! |
exactly. We are all animals. Why should we place ourselves above animals and not do experiments? |
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| Spike |
| quote: | Originally posted by dallastar
me too! come to toronto and we will kick his filthy ass! such a fukkin prick!:( :( :( :(
I think I did the right thing, right? |
of course you did the right thing. hopefully human society will be able to do somthing. i just watched that video....that was so terrible, poor creature. |
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| dallastar |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spike
of course you did the right thing. hopefully human society will be able to do somthing. i just watched that video....that was so terrible, poor creature. |
i know! it's embeded so I keep hearind it:( it IS scary!:( |
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| Spike |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
exactly. We are all animals. Why should we place ourselves above animals and not do experiments? |
thats bull. you can rationalize all you want but dont tell me you feel nothing when you watch another creature suffer, be it human or dog or tiger or whatever? |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spike
thats bull. you can rationalize all you want but dont tell me you feel nothing when you watch another creature suffer, be it human or dog or tiger or whatever? |
Sure I do.. but I feel a heck of a lot worse when i see someone suffer from AIDS or cancer... and I feel even worse yet when i see their family watch them suffer. |
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| Halcyon+On+On |
| quote: | Originally posted by Sunsnail
exactly. We are all animals. Why should we place ourselves above animals and not do experiments? |
Because nothing deserves to be tied down or caged and be sprayed with or injected with chemicals. Not even for the sake of future relief, not if it has absolutely no choice in the matter whatsoever.
One thought that keeps occurring to me about that that I've seen argued a few times (Dallastar's story of her neighbour reminded me of this) is...why do we experiment on innocent animals, yet not experiment on convicted serial rapists, murderers and child molesters? Why are worthless ing human beings allowed to sit in a prison for the rest of their lives for what they did to other innocent human beings when we could make use of them to perhaps pay back the world for all the suffering they have caused? We could do AIDS research, cancer research, stem cell research, even. We could use their bodies for a variety of different things to help give people who don't deserve to die a fighting chance at life. That would be justice, I think.
But it's wrong.
Because nothing deserves to be tortured and experimented on at the hands of people who would use it for what they believe to be "a more worthwhile cause". Not even serial rapists, murderers and child molesters. Least of all innocent human beings put in death camps because of their ethnicity. Least of all innocent animals. |
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| Spike |
| quote: | Originally posted by astroboy
Sure I do.. but I feel a heck of a lot worse when i see someone suffer from AIDS or cancer... and I feel even worse yet when i see their family watch them suffer. |
so basically you think the ends justify the means?
what if you had to kill another human being to get a cure for cancer or aids. heck what if you had to kill 100 ppl, or 1000? could you, would you be able to do that? |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
Because nothing deserves to be tortured and experimented on at the hands of people who would use it for what they believe to be "a more worthwhile cause". |
I disagree. To me human life will always be more valuable than that of animals.
| quote: | | Least of all innocent human beings put in death camps because of their ethnicity. |
agreed
| quote: | | Least of all innocent animals. |
disagree. |
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| dallastar |
I would NEVER purchase any product that is tested on animals! I might have in the past when I wasn't aware of such issues happening, but I am an organic kinda gal, with a lot of love for animals!
btw, a human that rapes, kills or molests children is not a human, they are an animal!!! I think It would be a terrific idea to test on these types of offenders! |
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