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Obesity "epidemic": any solution? (pg. 5)
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| Lilith |
My post on PD/D on poor nutrition in the western world
Basically, lot of people eat a lot of sugar they dont know about.
Sugar, doesnt get burnt off so it gets converted to lipids and people turn into blimps even though they 'think' theyre eating something which is good for them. |
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| EXTREMUM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Danny Ocean
i know tons of rich fat bastards so this is not true. |
Same here. I know tons of fast bastards in the Hamptons, whom have their bodies pressed against the steering wheels, of their sports cars. :wtf: |
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| lücid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Danny Ocean
i know tons of rich fat bastards so this is not true. |
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| quote: | Poverty link
Some obesity co-factors are resistant to the theory that the "epidemic" is a new phenomenon. In particular, a class co-factor consistently appears across many studies. Comparing net worth with BMI scores, a 2004 study[9] found obese American subjects approximately half as wealthy as thin ones. When income differentials were factored out, the inequity persisted — thin subjects were inheriting more wealth than fat ones. A higher rate of lack of education and tendencies to rely on cheaper fast foods is seen as a reason why these results are so dissimilar. Another study finds women who married into higher status are predictably thinner than women who married into lower status. |
sure, there are plenty of fat s with money out there, but i think there's a much clearer association between obesity and the lower class. |
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| Caela |
I also think that a large part of it has to do with American culture. We're always in a rush, grabbing what we can eat on the go. We don't have any traditional dishes I can think of (um...hamburgers and hotdogs?) that haven't been adopted from other societies. Family meals are less common than in the past.
Even when we go to a restaurant...you're in and out within an hour. When I visited France, our tourguide yelled at us one night for eating our dinner too fast. He said, "What is your rush! You're not in America right now! Sit and ENJOY THE FOOD!" |
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| EXTREMUM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Caela
I also think that a large part of it has to do with American culture. We're always in a rush, grabbing what we can eat on the go. We don't have any traditional dishes I can think of (um...hamburgers and hotdogs?) that haven't been adopted from other societies. Family meals are less common than in the past. |
CliffsNotes: Convenience, is what makes most Americans so lazy. Sad, but true. |
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| Caela |
| quote: | Originally posted by EXTREMUM
CliffsNotes: Convenience, is what makes most Americans so lazy. Sad, but true. |
In a nutshell, exactly what I was trying to say. Lol, thx for condensing 3 of my posts into one sentence. |
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| Orbax |
| if you fidget you burn an extra 300 calories a day |
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| EXTREMUM |
| quote: | Originally posted by Caela
In a nutshell, exactly what I was trying to say. Lol, thx for condensing 3 of my posts into one sentence. |
LOL, no problem. At least, I took the time to read your posts, and analyze them properly. Furthermore, I agree with you.
I disagree with the whole Income/Social Class, and how Myra states it's relative to obesity. No disrepsect to Myra, but that's the most ridiculous theory I've heard all month, on TA. :o
In addition, again...
| quote: | Originally posted by EXTREMUM
It's not about the money - it's about personal preference. Are you athletic, or a couchpotato? Do you watch what you eat, or do you eat carelessly, upon impulse?
Answer to Obesity: SELF-CONTROL.
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Price: $0. |
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| Dj O'Callaghan |
| Make them pay higher taxes. I would also tax junk food like they do with alcohol and cigarettes. |
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| Orbax |
| quote: | Originally posted by EXTREMUM
I disagree with the whole Income/Social Class, and how Myra states it's relative to obesity. No disrepsect to Myra, but that's the most ridiculous theory I've heard all month, on TA. :o |
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...G=Google+Search |
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| EXTREMUM |
It seems as if these articles' conclusions are against of Myra's opinion...
| quote: | Originally posted by WebMD
Rich-Poor Gap Narrowing in Obesity
Obesity rising in all income levels, especially among the rich
By Miranda Hitti
WebMD Medical News
Reviewed By Brunilda Nazario, MD
May 2, 2005 -- Obesity is on the rise across America, and earning a lot of money doesn't necessarily protect against it.
Previously, obesity was associated more with poverty than wealth, say University of Iowa researchers including Nidhi Maheshwari, MBBS, a graduate research assistant in epidemiology.
But during the past 30 years, obesity has grown at all income levels -- especially among the richest Americans, say the researchers, who reported their findings in Washington at the American Heart Association's 45th Annual Conference on Cardiovascular Disease Epidemiology and Prevention.
"There has been a perception that poor people are more likely to be fat," says Maheshwari, in a news release. "However, obesity is growing at a much faster rate in those with the highest incomes."
Thick Wallet, Thick Waistline?
Obesity is still most common among those with the lowest incomes -- but not by much.
People earning the most money ($60,000 per year or more) had the biggest growth in obesity from the early 1970s to the turn of the century, say Maheshwari and colleagues.
"The fact is that obesity is increasing in all races, all income categories, and at a faster rate with people in higher incomes," says the University of Iowa's Jennifer Robinson, MD, MPH, in a news release.
"Obesity prevalence is now similar across all income categories, with obesity prevalence in the highest income group rapidly approaching that of the lowest income group," says Robinson, an associate professor of epidemiology who also worked on the study.
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| Caela |
But it's kind of the deal with what came first, the chicken or the egg?
If you're going to argue the income/obesity point:
A. Is it that because of low income, people are less likely to eat properly/have more time to exercise?
B. Is it that because of obesity, large people are less desirable to fill certain job positions, resulting in a low income. As much as we don't want to admit it, we are a very superficial society and if a tall, thin, blonde is competing against a short, overweight woman (equally qualified), who do you think is going to get the job? |
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