Yeah, that sounds like something that would be child's play for even a beginning pianist.
Try playing some Rachmaninoff:
;)
frankgrimes87
Ya, but i think if u actually played it out, it would atleast be really hard for me. Since im more or less just starting out.But either way I still love it. Its one of my favorite tracks. It just makes me feel really good. But what kind of artists can u suggest that is that style but is really good?
UWM
Smells like alt in here.
MrJiveBoJingles
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Originally posted by Aquarian
I get what you're saying, but I'm thinking outside the box here. It'll help them compose along the lines of western music. But there are other aspects to music where those principles are completely irrelevant. For example...
That is what trance is: Western melodic music that uses very consonant harmonies and simple rhythms. It has the simplest European beat, less rhythmic complexity and "funk" than even other electronic music, and basically no non-European influences as far as melody and harmony go. There's nothing wrong with that, but that's what it is. And I don't think that makes trance "musically inferior" or anything stupid like that. If I gave that impression, I've been doing a bad job expressing myself.
Of course, there are other things that are extremely important in trance, too: knowing what will work on a dance floor and knowing how to use your tools (sequencer, synths, samplers, effects). I don't mean to discount those areas at all, and the best producers will try constantly to master those domains, too.
Aquarian
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Originally posted by Spirit5
Your right however as a composition, it is more of one than "Flight 643" when thinking in a western music perspective. If your talking rhythmically, yeah it's more rhythmic, but there are certaintly better rhythmic music out there that isn't melodic, but certaintly more musical than "Flight 643".
Rhythm doesn't matter here. I still don't see how it's 'more of a composition'. Even if there's only one note repeating itself over and over, it's still an artistic decision to do so, much in the same sense as you would intentionally place gaps and silences in a conventional piece. I can't remember who this is from, but it was once said that music isn't about placing notes, it's about knowing when not to. Whether or not the result is a good one is up to each individual listener to interpret. Regardless, it's still music.
frankgrimes87
this is all awesome info, but that song i just showed you. It is possible to play that without using like FL. Could you play that whole thing if u have a synth?
MrJiveBoJingles
Yes, I'm sure you could make that sound or something very similar and play those notes with a hardware synth.
frankgrimes87
thats cool. Well i guess it would be easy for some. But for me it would be extremely hard. Cuase in alot of parts, it sounds like hes playing on both sides of the keyboard. But i guess it just takes prac. like anything else. But none the less. I still think its an amazing song, and i think if it was real ly complex it wouldnt even sound good.
nchs09
wtvr... iv liked his productions, and some of his past sets... hes ok in my book, dont really like him anymore.
frankgrimes87
Well i guess it would be easy for some. But for me it would be extremely hard. Cuase in alot of parts, it sounds like hes playing on both sides of the keyboard. But i guess it just takes prac. like anything else. But none the less. I still think its an amazing song, and i think if it was real ly complex it wouldnt even sound good.
Aquarian
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Originally posted by Spirit5
Maybe saying less musical is the wrong thing, but some tracks certaintly show a knowledge of music that is more advanced than others.
You're mixing up words again. Some tracks show a greater knowledge of chord progression and melodic structure (or 'music theory'), but those aren't essential elements in music. You can just tap drums, and having that ability shows knowledge of music.
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There's guys like John Cage, who weren't really musicians, and still made "music",
If they made music, they were musicians, because a musician is someone who makes music.
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Originally posted by Spirit5
but to most people who listen to music and enjoy it, the really minimal and noisey stuff might not sound as "musical" to them. Many people think "melody" or "harmony" when it comes to music structure, esp in the west. It's just how things have come to be, and certaintly there's room for the other stuff too, but most people don't accept it.
... and fortunately the definition of music isn't up to merely one culture. To limit yourself to melody is a very closed-minded attitude.
frankgrimes87
But I think all in all. Its still music no matter how easy or hard it is. It is still music, and I love it to death. and i think if someone can come up with something that makes u feel a certain way, i think thats the most important part.
