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CDJs and vinyl emulation (pg. 4)
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| Jarvmeister |
No one claims that .02 makes it easier, I even hear people say they find it more tricky, at least initially.
FFS! Think about the physics of it for just a second. .02 is better than .05 or .1 !!!!!!!!!!
It allows those with an accurate enough ear to use it to their advantage. This is not rocket science!!
Think about it, if you have to correct once every 15 seconds using .05 then you'll only have to correct every 37.5 if you use a .02 pitch.
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| nousplacidus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Also has a plastic jar lid as a platter...
I dont get why everyone is obsessed with vinyl emulation in CD players. Its a CD player ffs...different system, use it differently. I dont expect to use technics in CDJ mode when I'm playing wax... |
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i have no problems mixing with my cdj800 (only got 1 at the moment, lack of money :p) so im mixing between an old cd player and the cdj. i can mix well enough with the 0.05 even though my beatmatching isnt great, if its a tiny bit out give it a quick spin on the side of the jog wheel or stick it in cdj mode and use the wheel as a pitch bend
i really wanted the 100% pitch range and vinyl emulation thats why i went for the 800 instead of the 200 (1000 was way too much, and i can live without hot cues and a memory slot), and i'd like to think if anyone came to use my setup who were fimilar with the 1000s, which in all fairness is more likey than someone who's fimilar with the 200s, they'd be able to use it no problem :)
saying that i do prefer cdj mode for cueing :p
edit - am i right in thinking the jog wheel part of the 800 is identical to the 1000, both the hardware and the tehcnical gubbins inside? i know the platter is a different colour and the 1000mk3 can be adjusted but i mean the actual vinyl emulation :) |
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| sleepydragon |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
Think about it, if you have to correct once every 15 seconds using .05 then you'll only have to correct every 37.5 if you use a .02 pitch.
Jarv |
if someone has to correct every 15 seconds on .05 there nothing more needs to be said. maybe you should have to correct on .1% every 15 seconds |
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| Jarvmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by sleepydragon
if someone has to correct every 15 seconds on .05 there nothing more needs to be said. |
It was an example, for the hard of understanding, to be able to grasp the relative benefits of a finer pitch resolution.
You missed the point I feel.
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| sleepydragon |
| oh well im stupid |
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| Jarvmeister |
Ignore me - I'm on a wind up tip at the moment - I cannot imagine whats come over me.
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| Zoso |
Whoops. I didn't meant to start a pitch resolution pissing contest! I was just genuinely curious as to which deck had the best vinyl emulation.
Some said its a CDJ, ffs, if you want vinyl use vinyl. I understand this notion. However, as I said in the original post, I learned to mix on vinyl. Therefore, I would PREFER something that emulates that as much as possible. It's human nature to want to learn things that we are already somewhat familiar with.
Oh, and for what it's worth guys, I'll NEVER play out in a club. I just do this because I love the music. I listened for about 4 or 5 years, and I finally had to prove to myself that I too could mix trance. I never thought I would learn, but here I am one year later, and I don't do half bad. :)
Thanks for all the input. |
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| dj_kane |
| quote: | Originally posted by sleepydragon
if someone has to correct every 15 seconds on .05 there nothing more needs to be said. maybe you should have to correct on .1% every 15 seconds |
on my 800mk2 i can hold it for at least 45 seconds then i give the jog wheel a slight touch if its starting to run away but most of my mixes last around 45 seconds - 1 minute anyway. |
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| Jarvmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
on my 800mk2 i can hold it for at least 45 seconds then i give the jog wheel a slight touch if its starting to run away but most of my mixes last around 45 seconds - 1 minute anyway. |
I would also say it depends on the genre you mix as to how noticeable a drift in mix is.
2 145bpm pumpers with a really punchy beats are going to need razor sharp amendments to keep the mix sounding tight, whereas a couple of 130bpm chuggers with sloppy break beats are going to require far less manipulation to make them sound good.
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| dj_kane |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
I would also say it depends on the genre you mix as to how noticeable a drift in mix is.
2 145bpm pumpers with a really punchy beats are going to need razor sharp amendments to keep the mix sounding tight, whereas a couple of 130bpm chuggers with sloppy break beats are going to require far less manipulation to make them sound good.
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all my tracks are 138bpm + |
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| Jarvmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_kane
all my tracks are 138bpm + |
It makes no difference what BPM your tracks are if you down tempo them! ;)
And what about sludgy fat beats, as opposed to punchy PvD style kicks. It all makes a big difference. Those type of beats (quick punchy) require you to be ultra acurate - would you not agree?
But if you're a hot DJ then great - I just know how difficult it can be to hold that style of mix compared to a slowed more ploddy mix.
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