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nousplacidus
Windows vista is going to be a pile of crap. They started with the same foundation that they had at 3.1 and somewhere along the way decided they wanted to revamp some of it for good press to sound like they were making a change (95,2000, and XP were windows 3.1 patches my friends).

More security holes, more restrictions, less performance.

I'll pass thanks.
DJ Sid
quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
Well, Microsoft had to apiece the RIAA and MPAA by introducing a very strict form of DRM called Aacs. Its an extreme form of content protection that prevents the legitimate user from making backup copies of music or movies that they buy to put into portable media devices. And another thing. Vista will have an extreme measure of security that it will constantly monitor what you do on the OS in case you do something like hacking it and causing the OS to completely shutdown. Its so extreme that it will not even let you install unsigned drivers.


If this is for real, i'm ing buying a Mac.
blacknoizybox
what are you guys worried about? stick with XP and everything will be fine. i don't see the point of upgrading to Vista so it in none of my concern. have a nice day :)
blacknoizybox
a quote for the lazy:

====================================
A few fun quotes, included for amusement value.

"I propose that each copy of the OS should ship with an orange jumpsuit and
sensory deprivation goggles, since all Vista users have been unilaterally
declared 'enemy combatants' by the content apparatchiki" - Daniel Nevin.

"Windows Vista? And what a vista! All you see as you look around your garden
is a 60foot high brick wall" - Crosbie Fitch.

"welcome to the new world of DRM where expensive pieces of hardware across the
world could potentially be remotely rendered useless by over-zealous
copyright holders. Way to go, Hollywood!" - Chip Mulligan.

"I can not only say that the idea [of tilt bits] is basically insane, but I
can also see hardware manufacturers refusing to implement tilt bits, or more
likely, faking their functionality" - Dave Walker.

"I purchased a new DVD/SACD player (w/HDMI out), surround-sound receiver/amp
(non-HDMI i/o - they're still too expensive for me), & LCD TV with HDMI
input. My DVD/SACD player was connected to the SSamp via a nice single simple
optical cable (& HDMI cable to the TV). I figured that would be all I need,
keeping a digital path all the way to the SSamp (& TV). Wrong! It worked
beautifully until I played my one & only SACD. No sound came forth! Huh? I
read the DVD/SACD player manual: in brief small print, "When playing SACDs,
audio is output only from the 5.1ch RCA analogue outputs" - Anthony May.

"I can't playback HD because I need to upgrade my 2 (SLI'd) Nvidia Quadro
4500's (~$2000) to a $200 FX7600GT because it supports HDCP. I can't wait
till someone cracks this DRM/HDCP/AACS crap" - "Sy".

"Thanks alot, Muslix64 [the author of the purported HD-DVD crack] you're not
the only one with a monitor/vid card that doesn't support hdcp, your work is
greatly appreciated" - "yodoso".

"The funny thing is that I cant see how HDCP will actually even prevent
piracy. In fact the only thing I can see it doing is encouraging piracy
because everyone whose bought a new computer/monitor/HDTV in the last few
years which don't have HDCP are now screwed out of the several thousand
dollar purchases. So instead of buying new products they will turn to
pirated/cracked Blu-ray/HD-DVDs which will work without the HDCP" - "Gizza".

"The HDCP (high-definition content protection) overlords are coming to get us.
They are basically saying you can't watch video unless you have a digital
monitor and a special video card that supports the end-to-end content
protection they have built; So that you, the un-trusted-consumer-who-bought-
their-expensive-product, can't possibly make backup copies or anything else
with that fancy new HD-DVD or Blu-ray disc you have" - "verifex".

"Digital rights management technology will still fail to prevent widespread
infringement. In a related development, pigs will still fail to fly. I
predict that every year, and it turns out to be true every year" - Ed Felten.

"Microsoft wasted no time; it issued a patch three days after learning about
the hack. There's no month-long wait for copyright holders who rely on
Microsoft's DRM. This clearly demonstrates that economics is a much more
powerful motivator than security" - Bruce Schneier on Microsoft's DRM re-
enabling patch for FairUse4WM.

"As a not-so-long-ago electronics design engineer, I can imagine the rage &
pain felt by engineers & their employers [...] This is total insanity from
anyone's perspective except the content providers, and they don't care
because it's everyone else who's picking up the tab for it!" - Anthony May.

"The HDCP scheme will serve to make the illegal product the most full featured
and least restrictive, and thus the most attractive to the consumer. Add in
the expense of buying new equipment to view the legal content (when existing
equipment is perfectly capable) and the performance drain imposed by in-line
encryption/decryption and they've put out the biggest incentive to piracy
yet" - "Greg".

"Good job, industry! Spend an incredible amount of time and effort developing
the next generation of video quality only to step on it BEFORE THERE'S EVEN A
DECIDED UPON STANDARD in the name of Copy Protection which will just be
outflanked by a couple of 14 year old hackers and distributed over BitTorrent
anyway" - "SweetMercury".

"Sony, MS, movie studios... here's the deal. You've screwed up so bad that i'm
not buying either HD drive option until they're so cheap that I end up
getting one included with my computer because it was the minimum optical
drive" - "zweben".

"There has to be a whole new division at Microsoft. The "Office of Consumer
Apology" or something. Responsible for "I'm sorry your content didn't
PlayForSure. That isn't meant to be literal you know" and "yes, I know you're
supposed to be able to play HD at full resolution, but you see, your cable
has a kink in it, which changed the electrical characteristics slightly and,
well, I guess I'm just sorry" - Blake Ramsdell.

"your latest girly moan bitch rant is making the rounds on every news site
just about isn't it? are you on cnn yet? are women throwing their panties at
you?" - A friend (who requested anonymity).
===================================

Author: Peter Gutmann
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut0...vista_cost.html
david.michael
quote:
Originally posted by nousplacidus
Windows vista is going to be a pile of crap. They started with the same foundation that they had at 3.1 and somewhere along the way decided they wanted to revamp some of it for good press to sound like they were making a change (95,2000, and XP were windows 3.1 patches my friends).


I hope this is not serious.

This is not serious...

Right Nousplacidus?


Nousplacidus?



Right?
|Thrax|
apple.com/switch

best move I ever made.
thesuperfunk
What the are you all bitching about? ... i bet there's only a tiiiiiny percentage on here who actually know what S/PDIF is ... let alone use it!
Ivand
quote:
Originally posted by nousplacidus
Windows vista is going to be a pile of crap. They started with the same foundation that they had at 3.1 and somewhere along the way decided they wanted to revamp some of it for good press to sound like they were making a change (95,2000, and XP were windows 3.1 patches my friends).

More security holes, more restrictions, less performance.

I'll pass thanks.



:stongue:


3.1 > 95 > 98 > ME

NT3.1 > NT4 > 2000 > XP > 2003 Server > Vista


two very different things my friend
|Thrax|
quote:
Originally posted by thesuperfunk
What the are you all bitching about? ... i bet there's only a tiiiiiny percentage on here who actually know what S/PDIF is ... let alone use it!


media center pc's pal.. MCE.

btw already running vista on my work laptop, its a piece of
skip
quote:
Originally posted by thesuperfunk
What the are you all bitching about? ... i bet there's only a tiiiiiny percentage on here who actually know what S/PDIF is ... let alone use it!



i've been using it for years and known what it is for quite some while too.


and wtf does that have to do with anything though? the ******s are making stupid "copy protection" limitations and that's pissing us off. it's not our fault you don't know what s/pdif is. software that tries to limit you is very rarely a good idea IMO. i guess you feel differently and swallow all the bull that's shoved down your throat. i for one am not gonna take all the crap they're trying force on us. drm, M$. :whip:

Arbiter
quote:
"The HDCP scheme will serve to make the illegal product the most full featured
and least restrictive, and thus the most attractive to the consumer. Add in
the expense of buying new equipment to view the legal content (when existing
equipment is perfectly capable) and the performance drain imposed by in-line
encryption/decryption and they've put out the biggest incentive to piracy
yet" - "Greg".


Exactly, lol.
|Thrax|
they have already cracked the HDCP codec to remove the restriction on HDMI only.
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