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How to Become a DJ (pg. 4)
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Devbert
Thanks for the advice.

Someone suggested the Vestax PCV-275 for the mixer, and it looks pretty solid. I'll probably get the kick ass MDR-700 Sony Headphones too.

So, I would have to buy a pair of CDJ-100's? Why not just get a nice dual CD deck for $400?

$350 for mixer
$100 for headphones
$600 for pair of CD players (theoretically)
$300 for speaker/amp combo

$1350+ S&H and Tax. Not too cheap. Hehe.
evil_bastard
I already have a Pioneer CDJ-100S (cd player). I plan to get:

2 X Decks (not sure what yet)
A 3 Channel mixer
Some fairly cheap headphones.
Cheap speakers (do I even need an amp just for my bedroom?)


The advantage of this is that you can learn to fade FROM and TO a CD player, but you'll also get all the hands on benefits of a turntable. Also, you can get cheaper tunes on CD and also use it as backup.

CD players will restrict you to playing in bars and small parties. I think the vast majority of bars use CD players. Almost all clubs use turntables. Though I've heard many clubs use a setup like the one I just listed, two turntables plus a CD players for extra tunes/backup.
G K Murray
CD decks are for PUSSIES!!!!
Devbert
The benefit I see of getting CD Decks to start with is that I have about 7,500 mp3's. Buying the Vinyl of the tracks I like would be difficult and cost a load. So maybe it is better to start off with a CD Deck.

But I would need two CDJ-100's, correct?
evil_bastard
I imagine it is useful to have one as a complement to your decks though, so you can play tunes you havn't got on vinyl, or to use if one of your decks blows up or something!

I bloody hope so. I have a Pioneer CDJ-100. I havn't even used it yet, I don't have any speakers. My mate says I should pick up a really pair of speakers for about 20 quid. Will this work, or will I need some sort of professional speakers and an amp? I don't have a hifi anymore so I have no speakers to attach to it.

I want to play around with it on its own, to see what all these effects are that it boasts.

I got it for £100 on eBay in AS NEW condition. What a bargain eh? £100 was the Buy it now price!
evil_bastard
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Originally posted by Devbert
The benefit I see of getting CD Decks to start with is that I have about 7,500 mp3's. Buying the Vinyl of the tracks I like would be difficult and cost a load. So maybe it is better to start off with a CD Deck.

But I would need two CDJ-100's, correct?


I dunno, I think it might be wiser to get two decks and one cd player, and a 3 channel mixer.

I think, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong, that with one cd deck and 2 turntables, you will get enough experience fading into and out of cds as you would get using two cd players. It would make sense.
Devbert
Does the Vestex PCV-275 have 3 line-in's so that it could handle 2 turntables and a CD player?

That does sound like a good idea, but if I were to go with that set-up, no way I could afford technics. I'd have to get a budget pair of decks. Also I'd have to start building a vinyl collection, which would take a while.
evil_bastard
Some people (but none that I've seen on these boards) think that the Numark Pro TT-2 are better than technics.

Certainly on paper, their specs match technics.

They cost $280 each, yet Technics cost $400 each (both prices taken from 123dj).


But check out this package deal!!

http://www.123dj.com/packages/turntable/ppak_2001.html

Two Numark Pro TT-2 turntables
One Numark DM-3002 mixer
Two Phat Track cartridges
FREE headphones!
FREE mic!
All cables included

$695.00!


On the same site, this would all cost you around $900 to buy separately, and it includes everything you need to get started (except speakers).


Am I the only one here who thinks that's an amazing deal for decks that are nearly as good as technics???
Dmatrox
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Originally posted by Michael Russo
Step 1: Buy equipment.

Step 2: Buy some vinyl (all in the genre you want to spin).

Step 3: Hook it all up.

Step 4: Put the songs on the platter.

Step 5: Teach yourself to mix.

That's the only way to do it (unless you know someone that already does it). You're gonna have to teach yourself how to mix... no book or no person can teach you how to do it.


DAMN STRAIGHT!:D exactly how i started!
Devbert
quote:
Originally posted by evil_bastard
Some people (but none that I've seen on these boards) think that the Numark Pro TT-2 are better than technics.

Certainly on paper, their specs match technics.

They cost $280 each, yet Technics cost $400 each (both prices taken from 123dj).


But check out this package deal!!

http://www.123dj.com/packages/turntable/ppak_2001.html

Two Numark Pro TT-2 turntables
One Numark DM-3002 mixer
Two Phat Track cartridges
FREE headphones!
FREE mic!
All cables included

$695.00!


On the same site, this would all cost you around $900 to buy separately, and it includes everything you need to get started (except speakers).


Am I the only one here who thinks that's an amazing deal for decks that are nearly as good as technics???


Does the Numark DM-3002 mixer have 3 inputs so it could run 2 turntables and a cd player?

And what are the Phat Track cartridges for? They are for runing the record right? I'm just learning up on the DJ lingo. Thanx

Eugene
Good evening, gentlemen :)

Let me step into this discussion, as I myself bought the gear a few months ago and have been practicing ever since.

For Trance music, you should definitely get turntables (as opposed to CD players). Why? Because everything Trance-related is released on vinyl. True, you can mix MP3's, but I can't imagine how you would respect yourself for spinning low-quality crappy MP3's. This is an insult to you as a DJ! You might as well get yourself a "virtual DJ" computer program and mix your MP3 there. I see no difference.

Let me go on: if you can at all afford it, and even if you have to wait for it, follow everyone's advice and get Technics. This is just about the only option as far as serious DJ'ing is concerned. Even if you're a beginner, you'll quickly discover that your learning will be more productive and enjoyable on Technics. So for both beginners and pro's this is the main choice. If you can wait a few months and earn some bucks for Tech's, then BY ALL MEANS do it! You'll be grateful for this advice.

But, if you have budget problems, you can also consider some other decks. For instance, I bought the very cheap Numark TT-1520's Direct Drive, $300 a pair. They're pretty crappy compared to the higher end of the spectrum, but not that bad. Direct-drive is usually best, but in some cases high-end belt-drive decks can be better than low-end direct-drive ones. Keep that in mind. A factor to consider: Will the whole platter stop if you press down on the record? This is extremely undesirable when mixing, and will sometimes happen with cheapo -decks. Not that you can't get around that, but direct-drive TT's are usually more stable and robust.

I can't give you any advice on mixers 'cause I basically have a pretty average mixer, nothing special (Gemini), and the mixer is NOT the critical variable in your setup -- the decks are, and your mixing skills. As for the mixer, you can get by with a crappy one, as long as it has 3 EQ's and a basic 2-channel functionality.
evil_bastard
Does anyone have any thoughts on the Package deal I've shown on the previous page?

I'm fairly sure that's a 3 channel mixer, but I havn't a clue what PHAT cartidges are.


You're getting two what appear to be very good decks to me (about as good as technics on paper anyway), a decent mixer, headphones, cartidges and microphone.

Basically all that for $700. It would cost you $800 for a pair of technics, and then you've got the rest to pay for, which would take it over a grand.


But given that basically everyone says go for technics, and that's what all the clubs use, I think they must know what they're talking about.

You could try asking in the DJ Booth forum if anyone thinks that package deal is a good one.
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