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I am happy that Americans are being killed in Iraq
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| Purple |
| Dont want to put it in any sort of glorified view on the loss of american lives. But I just hope that they kill all American terrorists and American insurgents before they flee Iraq to invade Iran. Start systematically sniping them, beheading them, kidnap and kill them.. or whatver it takes. I just hope this killing of US soilders never stops and they keep US engaged in Iraq. Because the moment this stops and peace returns; US will go for Iran. |
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| Dopey |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
Dont want to put it in any sort of glorified view on the loss of american lives. But I just hope that they kill all American terrorists and American insurgents before they flee Iraq to invade Iran. Start systematically sniping them, beheading them, kidnap and kill them.. or whatver it takes. I just hope this killing of US soilders never stops and they keep US engaged in Iraq. Because the moment this stops and peace returns; US will go for Iran. |
throw the Jews down the well! |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Purple
Dont want to put it in any sort of glorified view on the loss of american lives. But I just hope that they kill all American terrorists and American insurgents before they flee Iraq to invade Iran. Start systematically sniping them, beheading them, kidnap and kill them.. or whatver it takes. I just hope this killing of US soilders never stops and they keep US engaged in Iraq. Because the moment this stops and peace returns; US will go for Iran. |
Thank god the radical liberals will never take power in this country. :)
At least the US makes a concerted effort to avoid casualties. The islamists want to die, and make no qualms about attacking market places, mosques, offices. Hezbollah fires thousands of rockets specifically at Israeli cities, not the military, the cities.
If you have anger towards American policies, that's straight, criticize Bush or whatever, but don't wish death on American troops. Or else, you're just as radical as the islamists, whether their cause is noble or not.
It feels great to know that not only do islamists want to kill my father who is in baghdad, but seemingly western folks like purple do to. So thanks for wishing death on my father... |
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| Aquadyne |
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Thank god the radical liberals will never take power in this country.
At least the US makes a concerted effort to avoid casualties. The islamists want to die, and make no qualms about attacking market places, mosques, offices. Hezbollah fires thousands of rockets specifically at Israeli cities, not the military, the cities. |
That's the nature of asymmetric warfare, genius. And it's not consigned to a specific religion or ethnicity. Suicide bombing is not a construct that is unique to Islam.
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If you have anger towards American policies, that's straight, criticize Bush or whatever, but don't wish death on American troops. Or else, you're just as radical as the islamists, whether their cause is noble or not. |
It's not a bad thing to be radical. And more dead Americans accelerates American withdrawal out of Iraq.
So if anything, this quote is wrong on all counts.
| quote: | | It feels great to know that not only do islamists want to kill my father who is in baghdad, but seemingly western folks like purple do to. So thanks for wishing death on my father... |
You are welcome. May his death be swift and merciful. |
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| Krypton |
| quote: | Originally posted by Aquadyne
That's the nature of asymmetric warfare, genius. And it's not consigned to a specific religion or ethnicity. Suicide bombing is not a construct that is unique to Islam.
It's not a bad thing to be radical. And more dead Americans accelerates American withdrawal out of Iraq.
So if anything, this quote is wrong on all counts.
You are welcome. May his death be swift and merciful. |
Right, asymmetric warfare...
That is hate. Plain and simple. More deaths will not accelerate any withdrawal of american troops. You fail to realize that if we do withdraw, there will be a bloody bloody bloody civil war. Now is bad, but if we leave a power vacuum, the entire middle east destabilize into a regional conflict.
No, but most bush haters don't see this. They just hate, without putting forth any solutions of their own. And if they did put forth a solution, it's usually something the leadership will never do.
You'll be glad to know my father's task is to help prepare logistics for the extra troops Bush has sent to Baghdad. I hope they kill al-sadr, al-quada, and death to America's enemies!!
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On another note, I see a huge war in the future, where these issues will be decided. Does anyone else see this? Several scholars have put forth the next great conflict will be one of civilizations. Or possibly the political power-struggle of liberalism vs. conservative boiling over into civil war at home. Peace has never lasted forever. The next great war is coming, when, who knows?? 2012 !?!? |
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| Aquadyne |
| quote: | Right, asymmetric warfare...
That is hate. Plain and simple. More deaths will not accelerate any withdrawal of american troops. You fail to realize that if we do withdraw, there will be a bloody bloody bloody civil war. Now is bad, but if we leave a power vacuum, the entire middle east destabilize into a regional conflict.
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Yes, asymmetric warfare. When someone is outmatched numerically or technologically they begin to wage combat on their own terms. Guerilla warfare has no chance of succeeding if it does not begin to leverage the civilian opinion on the war as well.
That is why you only begin to see consistent success of guerilla warfare emerge at the same time that forms of mass communication emerge as well.
Because a military victory is usually out of the question for guerillas, but a political victory is not.
Strategically, it makes more sense for Hezbollah to launch rockets at Israeli civilians than military installations. Because it is the civilian resolve (which tends to be weak and finicky) is what going to call the Israeli military off Lebanon. Dead kids and mothers in streets of Haifa have a much better effect than a bunch of dead IDF soldiers that got hit by a Hezbollah missile.
As far as US presence being required to head off a regional conflict, you place too much importance upon the US military. It can't even keep Baghdad safe, so what's the point of it even being there?
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No, but most bush haters don't see this. They just hate, without putting forth any solutions of their own. And if they did put forth a solution, it's usually something the leadership will never do. |
Of course the "bush haters" don't have a solution, because the "bush haters" wouldn't be so ing stupid as to even conceive of going into Iraq and trying this military adventure. That's why the "bush haters" don't have a solution for this problem. Because they aren't so ing stupid as to create a problem like that in the first place. By "bush haters" I assume you mean "liberals". Last time these wacky "liberals" got involved in something like this they had a clear mandate, a clear goal and a clear exit strategy (Kosovo 1999).
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You'll be glad to know my father's task is to help prepare logistics for the extra troops Bush has sent to Baghdad. I hope they kill al-sadr, al-quada, and death to America's enemies!! |
They haven't sent anything there yet. Congress has to approve the troop surge and it has not to my knowledge. So basically your father is sitting in Baghdad with his thumb up his ass, much like the rest of the US military there.
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On another note, I see a huge war in the future, where these issues will be decided. Does anyone else see this? Several scholars have put forth the next great conflict will be one of civilizations. Or possibly the political power-struggle of liberalism vs. conservative boiling over into civil war at home. Peace has never lasted forever. The next great war is coming, when, who knows?? 2012 !?!? |
Actually, that is a premise of a book by Samuel Huntington that was written in 1993. Shockingly enough it was called (are you ready for this?) "Clash of Civilizations". From what I recall, that book got bagged on just as much as Fukuyama's "End of History" thesis. |
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| jdat |
Not a big fan of the Iraq War but I say every foreign troops need to pull out the same day and just let the Iraqis fight it out!
Right now the coalition forces are the ones doing the least damage ... it's all the terrorism by locals killing locals that is raising the death toll |
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| pmoisse |
| quote: | Originally posted by Krypton
On another note, I see a huge war in the future, where these issues will be decided. Does anyone else see this? Several scholars have put forth the next great conflict will be one of civilizations. Or possibly the political power-struggle of liberalism vs. conservative boiling over into civil war at home. Peace has never lasted forever. The next great war is coming, when, who knows?? 2012 !?!? |
Will you fight in this war?
I disagree with Purple's desire to see more American troops die. I don't want to see anyone else die. Iraqi, Iranian, Syrian, American, British, Canadian (serving in Afghanistan mind you...); military or civilian.
You speak of a power vacuum...this was the exact reason that Bush Sr. never ordered his tanks into Baghdad during Gulf War 1. He knew that there was so much tension, anger and violent desires bubbling under the surface of Saddam's regime, that he knew it was better to leave him in power than take him out. Hell, all else being equal, Gulf War 1 would have been a better time to do it too! 500k troops on the ground, international support & mandate and Iran wasn't as cocky and oil rich (due to increased oil prices since the 1st Gulf war). |
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| Aquadyne |
| quote: | | that he knew it was better to leave him in power than take him out. |
That must be why he urged and supported the Iraqi Shiites to rise up and overthrow him. |
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| Sunsnail |
| This thread definitely should have been a poll |
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| Capitalizt |
We should pull out, then film the civil war following our withdrawal. We could sell the videos on pay-per-view and Ebay to make up for the money we've spent there.
We might even make a profit in the end. :happy2: |
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