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is it hard to get into ivy league (pg. 2)
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| Inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by m o 0 g
this is all hypothetical, im not planning on going myself. i wanted to see if it was hard to get into if u didnt have "hook-ups" |
That's kind of like asking "Is it hard to make it to major league baseball without being jacked up on steroids?" Sure, there are guys who have that edge, but most don't (though more do than have hook-ups at Ivy League schools). Regardless, playing professional sports isn't easy. |
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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vlad
lol, damn.
They didnt change the scores, but the format of the MCAT changed also... its all computerized now, with 20 less questions in each ear, and half the time. Its torture cause you get worn the out sitting in front of a computer for 4 1/2 hrs, answering 144 questions and writing 2 essays. |
Oh , what movie had some dude taking the MCAT? It was a good one! |
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| trunks1022 |
ivy league alumni ('03)
my high school stats prior to entering
- 1430 SAT score (when math/verbal only, and this was considered low end in my high school)
- 800 writing SAT2
- 740 math 1c
- 770 on one of the bios SAT2s
- 700+ on chemistry SAT2
- 92, 93 cumulative high school GPA, with some pretty bad dropoffs junior/senior year
- varsity cross country and track
- ping pong club VP
- writer for one of the school's papers
- parents did not graduate from a US college
- early decision |
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| The 3am Junkie |
a friend of mine just got into Yale
-98 GPA
-2100 SAT
-NHS
-All the extra curriculars (student government, charity etc.)
-Got in early decision |
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| MrSquirrel |
| quote: | Originally posted by guster
My ex-gf's dad had near perfect act/sat scores and applied to MIT. The only reason they turned him down was because he didn't have enough extra-curriculars.
So yeah.. be Mr. Johnny High School and join lots of if you wanna get in. |
MIT is not in the Ivy League.
Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, Princeton, Penn, and Yale are the Ivy League.
MIT is a beast unto itself, though it's admission procedures are similar to those of the Ivy League, legacy admissions are considerably less of an issue there.
MrS |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by m o 0 g
schools if your parents didnt go to the school you're trying to get into? |
yes, it's harder. sons on daughters of alums normally go through a separate application known as legacy preferences. The chances of getting in to any college school (let alone an Ivy or a top tier school) is boosted.
| quote: | Originally posted by Konijn
yes. you're looking at acceptance rates of 8% to 14% and competing with people who finished near the top percentiles of their high school cohort in grades and SAT I and II scores -- not to mention have oodles of extracurriculars. |
just to add to this point, more than fifty percent (a rough approximate would be closer to 65-75%)of the applicants to these top tier schools are deemed academically qualified by their respective admissions committee. so you're competing with a mob for a select few spots at these institutions.
| quote: | Originally posted by guster
My ex-gf's dad had near perfect act/sat scores and applied to MIT. The only reason they turned him down was because he didn't have enough extra-curriculars.
So yeah.. be Mr. Johnny High School and join lots of if you wanna get in. |
not necessarily. if you join a lot of clubs and didn't do much, it's the equivalent to not joining a club at all. It's really all about having leadership positions in the clubs that you do join, no matter if you are in 1 or 1000 clubs. That will boost your chances.
without giving away too much (since I do interview HS students who apply to my alma mater, Penn, and had to sit through a whole 2 hours listening about how the application process works), once you're academically qualified. I'll say this:
* If any college finds any reason to reject you no matter how trivial (one spelling or grammar error in your essay, missed a section to fill in, essays appear to have been written by an adult and not a 17 or 18 year old, etc), you'll get rejected in an instant. This eliminates more applicants than any other factor
* Your chances of getting in will go up if you genuinely show that you are interested in attending the school you apply to.
This is the reason why your chances of getting in is higher when you do early decision.
| quote: | Originally posted by Konijn
you should be focusing less on the "ivyness" and more on trying to find a school that suits your needs and personality. |
+1
best advice in this thread. |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrSquirrel
MIT is a beast unto itself, though it's admission procedures are similar to those of the Ivy League, legacy admissions are considerably less of an issue there. |
the most you'll get is a 2nd review of your application as a courtesy for MIT I believe |
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| guster |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marc Summers
Oh , what movie had some dude taking the MCAT? It was a good one! |
kumar had already taken it (and aced it) in harold & kumar.. that what you thinkin of? |
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| stan229 |
Money would be good to have.
I mean SERIOUS GREEN.. ivy leagues love a "nice donation" to a new development or something |
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| Inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by trunks1022
ivy league alumni ('03)
my high school stats prior to entering
- 1430 SAT score (when math/verbal only, and this was considered low end in my high school)
- 800 writing SAT2
- 740 math 1c
- 770 on one of the bios SAT2s
- 700+ on chemistry SAT2
- 92, 93 cumulative high school GPA, with some pretty bad dropoffs junior/senior year
- varsity cross country and track
- ping pong club VP
- writer for one of the school's papers
- parents did not graduate from a US college
- early decision |
math 1c? :haha: |
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| trunks1022 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inconspicuous
math 1c? :haha: |
whatever works. i probably took 2c also. this was almost 10 years ago |
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| verndogs |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inconspicuous
That plays little part in it, as, if you think about it, the vast majority of people who get in to those schools are not the children of alumns. Does it help? Yes. But it's like extra credit. There are a million other things that'll have a lot more influence on whether you get in than that will. And as for SAT scores, good luck getting in with a 1300 (or whatever the equivalent is now) unless you have perfect grades and are a stand-out athlete or have logged hundreds of hours of community service.
Also, why you haven't asked somebody whose job it is to get people into college this question is beyond me. If you think you want to go to an Ivy League school (or a comparable one, as there are several that're better than some of those that carry that title), you should be talking to a counselor of some sort--whether you hire one or harass the one at your school. You've got a lot of research ahead of you. |
i got in with a 1320 :toothless
edit: I only took math 1c too |
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