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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
It is pretty worthless monetarily. |
If that's what you're only concern, a philosophy degree isn't for you in the first place. |
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| MrJiveBoJingles |
| I agree, 100%. :p |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
I have honest interest in what you think a philosophy degree could get me in the working world (aside from perhaps a teaching position)? Please let me know, because this is what has been holding me back from actually getting it.
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Teaching, writing, and law are all fields with countless jobs for people with philosophy degrees. If you're not happy with the pay or those job prospects, then it's not the right pursuit for you - but to say the field is without value or worth (objective value - the idea that the very fact people practicing philosophy is a good thing) simply due to those subjective ideals is, in my opinion, wrong. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
If that's what you're only concern, a philosophy degree isn't for you in the first place. |
Unfortunately, I don't have mommy and daddy paying for my education (not suggesting you do, cause I have no idea whether you do or not). I sadly cannot just get the philosophy degree simply because I have interest in it.
I live on my own, and have to take out loans to go to school. Not to mention, I have teacher's college on top of regular University, which is an extra year of rent and schooling.
I am not going to try and obtain a philosophy degree, as well as another degree, AND my ECE. I can't afford it.
No, it isn't "worthless" in the complete sense. I meant it is pretty much worthless in a monetary sense.
EDIT: I want to get a degree that is substantial enough that it will allow other avenues for me such that in a circumstance where I choose to avert my attention from teaching for some period, I will have options. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Unfortunately, I don't have mommy and daddy paying for my education (not suggesting you do, cause I have no idea whether you do or not). I sadly cannot just get the philosophy degree simply because I have interest in it.
I live on my own, and have to take out loans to go to school. Not to mention, I have teacher's college on top of regular University, which is an extra year of rent and schooling.
I am not going to try and obtain a philosophy degree, as well as another degree, AND my ECE. I can't afford it.
No, it isn't "worthless" in the complete sense. I meant it is pretty much worthless in a monetary sense. |
Well then you socialist folk up in Canada must have really exceptionally financial aid/student loan programs - because Mama and Papa RJT aren't paying for a ing thing, sweet-pea, and I know plenty of folks who either have no parental support, or flat out don't have parents, who have found ways to fund their education, regardless of what they wanted to pursue. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Teaching, writing, and law are all fields with countless jobs for people with philosophy degrees. If you're not happy with the pay or those job prospects, then it's not the right pursuit for you - but to say the field is without value or worth (objective value - the idea that the very fact people practicing philosophy is a good thing) simply due to those subjective ideals is, in my opinion, wrong. |
You cannot honestly think that a Philosophy degree alone is ample educational experience to get you a decent paying job.
Philosophy itself is brilliant. I love it. Obviously. I think it is very beneficial to people to broaden their perspectives, and consider the plausibilities of our world. I would never say that Philosophy in general is worthless, as that is completely the opposite of my opinion. I wouldn't spend so much time trying to study and learn about it if I didn't think it would help me in some way, and didn't value the return. |
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| Psy-T |
| other than towards internet bills, i've never paid a dime on studying philosophy. i refused a full scholarship in philosophy that was offered to me based on my participation in a free-to-attend class at the university. it's likely that i study and practice philosophy more than most post graduates. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Well then you socialist folk up in Canada must have really exceptionally financial aid/student loan programs - because Mama and Papa RJT aren't paying for a ing thing, sweet-pea, and I know plenty of folks who either have no parental support, or flat out don't have parents, who have found ways to fund their education, regardless of what they wanted to pursue. |
Can you cut the condescending tone please? Yeesh, what is in to you today?
Like I said, I simply cannot afford going to school for 2 degrees, and a diploma in ECE. That is talking about 7 years school, which for something I can study on my own time for far less in both time and money, is not entirely worth it in the monetary sense.
School = bettering myself so that I can get a well paying job. School does not = going just for the sake of it. If it didn't cost thousands of dollars/year, I would be all over it. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by Abercrombie
/quick and dirty :)
yruugly is actually my hotmail address... don't ask me why, I picked it out 10 years ago :rolleyes: |
Aww! Well, I hope you don't think you're ugly.... cause you're not (just in case that wasn't already implied). |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
Like I said, I simply cannot afford going to school for 2 degrees, and a diploma in ECE. That is talking about 7 years school, which for something I can study on my own time for far less in both time and money, is not entirely worth it in the monetary sense.
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No one said you had to, all we're discussing is a philosophy degree... :conf:
| quote: | Originally posted by Theresa
School = bettering myself so that I can get a well paying job. School does not = going just for the sake of it. If it didn't cost thousands of dollars/year, I would be all over it. |
Well school for me = getting an education so I can pursue a career I want.
And I'm perfectly content living on a teachers salary for the rest of my life. |
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| Theresa |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
No one said you had to, all we're discussing is a philosophy degree... :conf:
Well school for me = getting an education so I can pursue a career I want.
And I'm perfectly content living on a teachers salary for the rest of my life. |
Teachers salary is fine... I just want a back-up plan. Who knows, maybe after 10 years of dealing with kids I'll want a change of pace. I am trying to create a security net for my future. I personally think it is a smart route to take.
"school for me = getting an education so I can pursue a career I want."
"School = bettering myself so that I can get a well paying job"
They seem the same to me. |
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