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wotyzoid
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Originally posted by RebeL9
1. In my opinion the entire Reflections album was awful. That's why I don't have much hopes for this new album.

2. I have nothing against producers taking a new path, and if you read one of my earlier posts in this thread I clearly explained that PvD did make a dramatic change of sound back in 2000 when he released Out There And Back and many people thought was that it was a good change. But Reflection was NOT a good change since it catered for the wider pop audience, hence all the awful vocals PvD have infected his latest tunes with.

And that thing about ignoring the mistakes is laughable. I knew that Tiesto fans were this ignorant but LOL seriously?! You could probably say that if he had released one or two really bad tunes in a short while and blame it on bad luck. But PvD have been churning out piss tunes and remixes for the last couple of years. And YES it is very very sad because everyone knows which potential he have.

alright now u went overboard

First. lets clear something out, Im not a big tiesto fan

2nd. Just because your mom doesnt give you enough attention, or your 6th grade girlfriend broke up with you, that doesnt give you any right to call me ignorant, sinse you dont even know me. Clearly you are no older than....12.

3rd. Its because of people like you that classic artists cant get to nowhere after their 3rd album or so, I bet you if you were an outstanding producer but u just couldnt come up with the right sound and your fans started to leave you, u would cry like a little girl for another chance.

4th. If you wanna bash on pvd and his productions, maybe because you want to start an argument, or because simply you dont like them, thats fine with me, i really dont give two craps, but be mature enough to respect other peoples opinions as well without being a close minded baby and appealing to insults.
wotyzoid
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Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
...and sometimes you need to ignore it's your favourite artist and just accept the truth.


....well yes, but not when you have hope the person can come back and you think they deserve credit, without mentioning that its pretty hard to leave an artist you love listening to.
Gauss
I'm by no means a PVD fan, but I never really understood why is Reflections considered so cheesy... There are probably two possible options. One being the fact that I never really payed too much attention to his older works (45 RPM, Seven Ways, Out There And Back) and the other being the fact that Reflections was one of very first albums I listened to when I started listening to real trance, when I "advanced" from commercial eurodance crap (Scooter and similar garbage from Viva and MTV). Probably both, but oh well. Crush and Like A Friend will always have a sentimental value to me.
Oh, and I'm not expecting much from this either. The Other Side didn't quite impress me and since I dislike today's trance and am not listening to it anymore, I think my (lack of good) expectation is rather justified.
RebeL9
quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
for another chance.

4th. If you wanna bash on pvd and his productions, maybe because you want to start an argument, or because simply you dont like them, thats fine with me, i really dont give two craps, but be mature enough to respect other peoples opinions as well without being a close minded baby and appealing to insults.


I find it hilarious that you write this after this:

"2nd. Just because your mom doesnt give you enough attention, or your 6th grade girlfriend broke up with you, that doesnt give you any right to call me ignorant, sinse you dont even know me. Clearly you are no older than....12."

No more comments. you just killed your own arguments and saved me a much longer reply. thanks :tongue2
RebeL9
quote:
Originally posted by Gauss
There are probably two possible options. One being the fact that I never really payed too much attention to his older works (45 RPM, Seven Ways, Out There And Back) and the other being the fact that Reflections was one of very first albums I listened to when I started listening to real trance, when I "advanced" from commercial eurodance crap (Scooter and similar garbage from Viva and MTV).


I'm pretty sure it's the latter.
Push2005
This thread is hilarious, lol
wotyzoid
quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
I find it hilarious that you write this after this:

"2nd. Just because your mom doesnt give you enough attention, or your 6th grade girlfriend broke up with you, that doesnt give you any right to call me ignorant, sinse you dont even know me. Clearly you are no older than....12."

No more comments. you just killed your own arguments and saved me a much longer reply. thanks :tongue2
What i find laughable is the fact that you think im just going to take crap from you even though this is only an online forum. Its kind of cute actually.
RebeL9
quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
What i find laughable is the fact that you think im just going to take crap from you even though this is only an online forum. Its kind of cute actually.


your memory fails you. I wasn't the one who got moms and girlfriends involved in a discussion about an album :happy2:
wotyzoid
quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
your memory fails you. I wasn't the one who got moms and girlfriends involved in a discussion about an album :happy2:


o wow, im sorry does that offend you?? yeh sucks right?
RebeL9
quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
o wow, im sorry does that offend you?? yeh sucks right?


the only thing that sucks is your limited vocabulary. I wish you could argue better. I would love to argue with a really passionate PvD fan. Not someone who just discovered a newfound God yesterday.

kingchinc
quote:
Originally posted by RebeL9
the truth hurts. I know.


the truth that you are a miserable human being?

or the truth that you are so obsessed with PVD that you will go entirely out of your way to bash any of his latest work, with such a skewed perception on anything he has done or lent his name to since he "let you down."

If either one of those is true, then indeed, the truth does hurt.
RebeL9
quote:
Originally posted by kingchinc
the truth that you are a miserable human being?


I love how the PvD fans a few years ago here at TA bashed Tiesto and called him sellout both for his nr 1 spot at the DJ Mag and his popish tunes. They hailed PvD and said that he would never sell out. Why? "Because he is one of the trance pioneers!"
Now history repeats itself.
:toothless
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