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julien2
A couple of months ago, I was talking about that new breed of trance.
Some replied with disbelief, and...skepticism.

Well, this guy explains it way better than I did at the time: http://www.emusic.com/features/spot...281_200703.html
Spirit5
Uh interesting but the author says "Christopher Lawrence" as one who push big tracks with big breakdowns...uh not exactly. Christopher Lawrence has always been a big one for harder, edgier, techier or more hypnotic sound. He's only played a select few tracks with "big breakdowns". And Paul van Dyk...that's debateable. He's played (and produced) plenty of tracks in the past without them. He's had some quite techno-like tracks that he's played (and some that he's produced). Even the cheesier stuff he now plays, isn't exactly "epic trance with big breakdowns", but a little closer to just a dance-pop sound with some trance influences from his earlier stuff. Just thought i'de put that in here.
Lilith
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Trancey? Could there be a more devastating accusation? In elite electronic-music circles, trance has long been a dirty word. Long considered electronic music's most compromised and least credible genre, trance is seen at best as a laughingstock, at worst an abomination.


Ouch!
distant
quote:
Originally posted by Lilith
Ouch!


Well, it's pretty much true.
julien2
indeed
Lilith
Yes but it's all fairly much true of any genre we've been exposed too since the 80's, singling out trance as the 'pariah' of the electronic music scene in terms of 'selling out to pop' is kind of unfair in a lot of ways.
Techno for just one example went from fairly much the late 80's, early 90's acid-rave, gabba scene to happy hardcore, top 40 dance and all that before finally petering out into the speedcore and terrorcore sub-genres in the late 90's.

Fact is, a lot of genres eventually polarise into some sort of pop and alternative scene from their roots, a few will cross genres and draw influence from other sources as musicians seek to progress their art and make themselves distinctive.
It's just the nature of the beast, everyone wants to be popular at some point as a musician as you're not paying your bills and living on happy thoughts alone. Some product has to move somewhere and something has to pay for the next project.
Zild
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Originally posted by Lilith
Yes but it's all fairly much true of any genre we've been exposed too since the 80's, singling out trance as the 'pariah' of the electronic music scene in terms of 'selling out to pop' is kind of unfair in a lot of ways.
Techno for just one example went from fairly much the late 80's, early 90's acid-rave, gabba scene to happy hardcore, top 40 dance and all that before finally petering out into the speedcore and terrorcore sub-genres in the late 90's.

Fact is, a lot of genres eventually polarise into some sort of pop and alternative scene from their roots, a few will cross genres and draw influence from other sources as musicians seek to progress their art and make themselves distinctive.
It's just the nature of the beast, everyone wants to be popular at some point as a musician as you're not paying your bills and living on happy thoughts alone. Some product has to move somewhere and something has to pay for the next project.


I agree wholeheartedly with what this woman said.
Project-K
What I don't get is why they call it 'new' trance. Isn't it just old trance that everyone has forgotten?
kingofsteele
Im glad to say that PVD style trance is dead and hardstyle is now the norm! DOWN with anything under 120 bpm
Allied Nations
christopher lawrence still plays big breakdowns lol, and he's the big usa trance dj, the guy obv just took the big two from europe and north america...


Midimiliz - Crsh is dope..


article is good, track examples are easy, he didnt really get in depth, everyone knows the examples he wrote about and knows they are a little trancey

DJ Dingel
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Originally posted by Spirit5
Uh interesting but the author says "Christopher Lawrence" as one who push big tracks with big breakdowns...uh not exactly.


If you listen to the tunes that the author names as "neo-trance" then I think you'll agree that Christopher Lawrence plays big tracks with big breakdowns by comparison.

I don't like the neo-trance label for these tunes; I just hear good minimal and tech-house. But if someone wants to turn out some neo-trance that sounds like the old Jason Porter sets, go ahead!
julien2
quote:
Yes but it's all fairly much true of any genre we've been exposed too since the 80's, singling out trance as the 'pariah' of the electronic music scene in terms of 'selling out to pop' is kind of unfair in a lot of ways.
Techno for just one example went from fairly much the late 80's, early 90's acid-rave, gabba scene to happy hardcore, top 40 dance and all that before finally petering out into the speedcore and terrorcore sub-genres in the late 90's.

Fact is, a lot of genres eventually polarise into some sort of pop and alternative scene from their roots, a few will cross genres and draw influence from other sources as musicians seek to progress their art and make themselves distinctive.
It's just the nature of the beast, everyone wants to be popular at some point as a musician as you're not paying your bills and living on happy thoughts alone. Some product has to move somewhere and something has to pay for the next project.





You missed the point of this thread. Yes you are right to say that, but the arcticle is actually about the new trance.

quote:
What I don't get is why they call it 'new' trance. Isn't it just old trance that everyone has forgotten?


I agree. Neo-trance takes a lot from the elements found in early 90s German trance.
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