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| digitul punk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Haunted
this isn't Israel's fault. Israel isn't going anywhere. It's the arabs own fault for not accepting the times and moving forward. they're stuck in the past, but thats what dogmatic religion does i guess. |
And why not? You wanna talk about Human rights... don't you think the Arabs/Palestinians have a RIGHT to exist on the same land, yet you see Israel dropping peace talks and not coming up with an outcome, every time? Where the hell is the democracy you speak of? You can't negotiate worth apparently... You preach freedom and yet the actions prove otherwise. Whose the hypocrite and the terrorist? Not the people fighting for a cause, certainly.
Dude you wanna get down to religions.. how about the concept of an Omni-potent GOD and his "SON" ... like what the ? That's Christianity for you... or how about the concept of 360 some gods? Thats Hinduism for you. And atheism is most idiotic concept of all... You know you are humans.. you know you don't know everything... yet you close your minds to the existence of a God. Point is, don't knock what you don't know. Flame on. |
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| digitul punk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Q5echo
oh now it's Fox news!!!!!!
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that is some tired right there. i bet you still listen to Crystal Method too? |
Funny how you can't think of something to say.
Redundant indeed. |
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| CHRles |
| quote: | Originally posted by digitul punk
And atheism is most idiotic concept of all... You know you are humans.. you know you don't know everything... yet you close your minds to the existence of a God. Point is, don't knock what you don't know. Flame on. |
you, I'm non-religious. Organized religion is based on some good ideas, but has gotten so corrupt over the years, and that's true of every religion.
I don't know if there's a god or not, but there may just be some higher energy that helps the universe (not just our tiny planet) run its course. |
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| CHRles |
| quote: | Originally posted by digitul punk
And why not? You wanna talk about Human rights... don't you think the Arabs/Palestinians have a RIGHT to exist on the same land, yet you see Israel dropping peace talks and not coming up with an outcome, every time? Where the hell is the democracy you speak of? You can't negotiate worth apparently... |
That's b/c the demands are unreasonable. Isrel's not about to let millions of Arabs from Lebanon and Jordan move to Israel simply b/c their grandparents fled the country back in the 1940s.
Israel also isn't going to split up Jerusalem into an east berlin/west berlin. It used to be like that pre-1967 when JORDAN, not the Palestinians, was in control of the eastern side.
As for the Golan Heights, if Syria wants it back (even though it LOST it when it fought a war with Israel) then Syria needs to stop supporting terrorist organizations like the Hizbollah. |
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| CHRles |
| quote: | Originally posted by digitul punk
Congratulations, you've bought all of the information that Fox fed you. Tell you what... goto al-jazeera.com, goto cnn.com and goto bbc.com and gulfnews.com ... forget about what you've read... have a clear objective mind and start reading the news regularly on these sites. Get an idea (from both sides, that is) of what the hell is ACTUALLY going on and then come talk to me. You obviously don't know how many people die in Palestine and Iraq on a daily basis... it's mass genocide. |
It's no secret that lots of ppl die in Iraq on a daily basis, and it's not the American army that's doing the killing. It also sure as hell isn't the Israeli army, so why don't you look up the words clear and objective mind before you start typing anything in here. |
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| venomX |
| quote: | Originally posted by CHRles
That's b/c the demands are unreasonable. Isrel's not about to let millions of Arabs from Lebanon and Jordan move to Israel simply b/c their grandparents fled the country back in the 1940s. |
Isn't the whole reason Israelis got 'awarded' the land because they fled the country way back in the day? Isn't it exactly the same logic? Why do Israelis get a nation when they are forced out of the land they held hundreds of years ago, yet these people don't get anything from a land they were forced off tens of years ago? Time wise, the Israelis have no claim on this land. It's like an 'african american' going back to ghana and claiming that his great great great grandfather owned some land there and he should be awarded some land due to that. How much sense those that make? As much sense as awarding Israel land.
Obviously the deed is done, but don't go around putting Israel as being any special than any other country in that region. |
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| CHRles |
Ah but it is special. It's the longest (and most stable) democracy in the region, and the only country in the region where Islam isn't the predominant religion.
BTW, what you've described about African Americans is interesting. Firstly b/c the country of Liberia came to be out of American blacks moving back to Africa, and second blacks were brought to America as slaves. So we're talking about a totally different circumstance. |
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| digitul punk |
| quote: | Originally posted by CHRles
It's no secret that lots of ppl die in Iraq on a daily basis, and it's not the American army that's doing the killing. It also sure as hell isn't the Israeli army, so why don't you look up the words clear and objective mind before you start typing anything in here. |
Listen here... I'm not going to spoon feed you articles upon articles... so lets just agree to disagree. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by CHRles
Ah but it is special. It's the longest (and most stable) democracy in the region, and the only country in the region where Islam isn't the predominant religion. |
Israel is the most hated nation on this planet and there is a reason for itwhy that is.Do you think killing and destroying their neighbor is democracy?
The only reason they still exist is because of the billion of the American tax payer money that goes to them every year and not to mention the never ending supply of arms and weapons from your government. |
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| hardcore trancer |
| quote: | Originally posted by CHRles
It's no secret that lots of ppl die in Iraq on a daily basis, and it's not the American army that's doing the killing. It also sure as hell isn't the Israeli army, so why don't you look up the words clear and objective mind before you start typing anything in here. |
you dont get it do you?the American occupation is the one and only reason why Iraq is what it is today a country with no democracy and no security,and civil war.
Dont tell me this is all worth it because the people can vote now,most Iraqi's left the country long time ago,and for the rest who are there they have nowhere to go and they really could care less about who the to vote or not. |
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| M.Johan |
| quote: | Originally posted by Fir3start3r
Oh come on, let's be at least intelligent about this.
uh...it's called demand.
When is the last time someone put nuclear energy in their car...
Certainly not even close to the same argument Iran is giving for their reasons. |
1st u know very well that these resources are non-renewable
So the nuclear enregy is the main energy in any developing and developed countries
from Indonesia to Russia,China,Latin countries like Brazil,
2nd Why u think that this's a demand or because Ahmady Najad said that
Israel must be swept from the map
These are words..........
BUT WHY u DON'T care about somethings else.........
bombs our country with Nuclear From extremist mad ass and many other DAMN things.............
http://imeu.net/news/article003471.shtml
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/6084362.stm
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006...in2137592.shtml
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk...0/post_539.html
http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=9923
3rd USA kidnapped 5 iranians,they don't even show us wat's about their conditions ,they refuse any Iranian diplomatic visitings
to them.
4th Britain and many EU countries have many economic and Diplomatic relationships with Iran. |
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| CHRles |
| quote: | Originally posted by hardcore trancer
you dont get it do you?the American occupation is the one and only reason why Iraq is what it is today a country with no democracy and no security,and civil war.
Dont tell me this is all worth it because the people can vote now,most Iraqi's left the country long time ago,and for the rest who are there they have nowhere to go and they really could care less about who the to vote or not. |
What American occupation? There are american bases in Kuwait and Saudi Arabia. Nobvody over there sees the Americans as occupiers.
The American military took out Sadam Hussein and is there to stay so that a country like Iran doesnt invade Iraq, or to make sure that Iraq doesn't become a fundamental country. |
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