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inconspicuous
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Originally posted by mezzir
spend as much time with them as you can


I couldn't disagree more. The person's already incredibly unstable (not enough to commit suicide, but enough to make you want to), clearly has less to offer than do you, and has no interest in anything that might be regarded as a healthy relationship of whatever kind. Get somebody to help the person so he or she doesn't commit suicide (at least not now), and then get the hell out.
Theresa
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Originally posted by mezzir
depends on the parents
some parents would take it personally and get angry with their child, making it worse, but some would do everything in their power to honestly make it better
idk which it is, but keep that in mind


That's true, in which case, she should do this:

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Originally posted by inconspicuous
tell somebody else who's close to the person, get the person to a hospital, end of story. It's not your fault, it's a cry for attention, whoever it is is just being obnoxious and in a very immature way, and you shouldn't have anything to do with whoever it is anymore.
Marc Summers
That's fairly selfish. Suicide is no laughing matter, and don't take the threat lightly. Although warning signs can be generalized, everyone is different. I've personally never met anyone who would blame another person for their suicide. Most of the suicidal people I've met feel sorry for themselves, but don't actually blame people for their demise.

You can still try to help him. The thoughts he is having are real. He truly believes that there is no way out, and don't ever try and tell him he's imagining it. Talk him through it, and try to sort his problems out. Talk him into getting counseling, for sure.

That's a crazy situation, there.
mezzir
quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
That's fairly selfish. Suicide is no laughing matter, and don't take the threat lightly. Although warning signs can be generalized, everyone is different. I've personally never met anyone who would blame another person for their suicide. Most of the suicidal people I've met feel sorry for themselves, but don't actually blame people for their demise.

You can still try to help him. The thoughts he is having are real. He truly believes that there is no way out, and don't ever try and tell him he's imagining it. Talk him through it, and try to sort his problems out. Talk him into getting counseling, for sure.

That's a crazy situation, there.

good advice right there
Theresa
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Originally posted by Caela
I have done all the things mentioned above. I should have included in my first post that this is NOT the first time they have threatened this. However, each time they say this kind of , it still hurts as much.


Seriously, make it a big deal... get doctors, psychiatrists, family, friends all involved.

If they are being serious, this will help. If they are dicking around, it will be embarassing enough that they wont pull that on you ever again.
Orbax
No one is roflmaoing at my pic :(
gehzumteufel
i was in a very bad position recently similar to you. although mine was still quite different.

im here at work one day and my buddy texts me thanking me for being a good friend and all. i say np anytime blah blah. he then responds with something to the effect of "i wont be around anymore thats why i am tellign you this." so for 3 hours here at work i am panicking trying to get him to give me a number of his friend that lives near him. i finally get the number to his ex who gives me the number to his friend tony. tony calls 911. by the time the ambulance gets there he has no feeling of his lower extremities. he took 4 different types of pills and an unknown number of each.

its not an easy situation to deal with and that was one thing that really hit home. the only thing i can say is there is a fine line between not doing enough and doing too much. you cant give them all your attention but they do need some. if at least to just stay within reach till they can get better help.

is this person seeking professional help? if not why? is there any way that they can?
inconspicuous
quote:
Originally posted by Marc Summers
That's fairly selfish. Suicide is no laughing matter, and don't take the threat lightly. Although warning signs can be generalized, everyone is different. I've personally never met anyone who would blame another person for their suicide. Most of the suicidal people I've met feel sorry for themselves, but don't actually blame people for their demise.

You can still try to help him. The thoughts he is having are real. He truly believes that there is no way out, and don't ever try and tell him he's imagining it. Talk him through it, and try to sort his problems out. Talk him into getting counseling, for sure.

That's a crazy situation, there.


your first and second paragraphs contradict one another, since, the mere fact that he's involving you means he's probably not serious enough to actually do it. People who commit suicide are already enveloped in their own little world and don't involve other people in the process. He's just being a prick.

Yes, still involve other people, but not to stop him--more so just so he'll stop making claims that will get such reactions. It might stop him from crying wolf quite so often if he has to be hospitalized and burdened with the ordeal of everyone constantly checking on him if he didn't mean it. If he did, well, then, that'll help. It's a win-win.
colonelcrisp
the person is obviously a wanker, they have no right to put their on other people like that. if they are making more serious threats about it, call the cops. they take suicide threats pretty seriously and if htey feel they are endangering themselves, they will bring them to a place where they can get help.
Lira
quote:
Originally posted by Caela
I have done all the things mentioned above. I should have included in my first post that this is NOT the first time they have threatened this. However, each time they say this kind of , it still hurts as much.

Tell them all you have to say and turn your back. Sounds harsh, but you've got to stop this at some point. Meanwhile, just let others know about what's happening, so you know there's someone taking care of this person while "you're away".

You don't need to be tortured by someone who's clearly torturing themselves.

Caela
quote:
Originally posted by gehzumteufel
is this person seeking professional help? if not why? is there any way that they can?


-no,but they NEED TO.

-i don't believe that they think there is something wrong with them. just the rest of the world.
inconspicuous
quote:
Originally posted by colonelcrisp
if they are making more serious threats about it, call the cops. they take suicide threats pretty seriously and if htey feel they are endangering themselves, they will bring them to a place where they can get help.


...even if he doesn't want to go--that's correct. If the cops think he's a danger to himself (well, actually, a psychiatrist who would talk to him there), they can hospitalize him without his consent.
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