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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by inconspicuous
your first and second paragraphs contradict one another, since, the mere fact that he's involving you means he's probably not serious enough to actually do it. People who commit suicide are already enveloped in their own little world and don't involve other people in the process. He's just being a prick.
Yes, still involve other people, but not to stop him--more so just so he'll stop making claims that will get such reactions. It might stop him from crying wolf quite so often if he has to be hospitalized and burdened with the ordeal of everyone constantly checking on him if he didn't mean it. If he did, well, then, that'll help. It's a win-win. |
How do they contradict?
And, I never said to try and stop him. "Talk him through" not "Talk him out" of suicidal thoughts. |
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| inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marc Summers
How do they contradict?
And, I never said to try and stop him. "Talk him through" not "Talk him out" of suicidal thoughts. |
they contradict because, on the one hand, you noted that most people don't blame other people, but then said "his thoughts are real." I know you weren't sure as to the legitimacy of the first statement, but you were correct, and is the reason that one can assume with some certainty that he is not, in fact, serious. |
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| Caela |
thanks for the advice, guys.
it's a very ed up situation and i guess i'll have to come to terms with the fact that i really have done all that i can possibly do (and stay sane myself). some people need to learn that happiness does not linger on those around them. |
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| iced_donuts |
| I have lost two members of my family to suicide , but they didnt go around saying it was going to happen , it was really sudden both times. it really annoys me when people say they are going to commit suicide. i have a friend in college who said to me a few times she was suicidal and i told her to stop being so attention seeking , and if she was genuinly going to commit suicide then do so and leave me alone, then for ages i was feeling with myself for being so harsh, but i really do think she was just attention seeking. i probably should have beem more supportive to her , but i really cant stand people who say they are going to commit suicide when they just want some attention. |
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| Omega_Blue |
| quote: | Originally posted by Caela
They are an EXTREMELY selfish person and continue to tell me that if they went through with it, it would be MY FAULT. |
that . |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Caela
-no,but they NEED TO.
-i don't believe that they think there is something wrong with them. just the rest of the world. |
my reply appeared way after all the other replys but i saw the thread when there were no replys. after seeing your reply about it not being the first time, it is even more imperative that you try to get this person to a shrink. they need it badly. |
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| inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by Caela
thanks for the advice, guys.
it's a very ed up situation and i guess i'll have to come to terms with the fact that i really have done all that i can possibly do (and stay sane myself). some people need to learn that happiness does not linger on those around them. |
yep--you've got to cut him off. Just to relieve your own conscience, though, in the mean time, at least make sure that there's no way he can carry it out any time soon. I seriously doubt that there's anything behind the claims, but it'll make you sleep better at night knowing that you did something, even if you didn't really need to. |
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| Marc Summers |
| quote: | Originally posted by inconspicuous
they contradict because, on the one hand, you noted that most people don't blame other people, but then said "his thoughts are real." I know you weren't sure as to the legitimacy of the first statement, but you were correct, and is the reason that one can assume with some certainty that he is not, in fact, serious. |
"Although warning signs can be generalized, everyone is different."
If he is truly mentally unstable and suicidal, his thoughts are real. "Delusional" would the right word to describe it. |
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| iced_donuts |
| quote: | Originally posted by gehzumteufel
my reply appeared way after all the other replys but i saw the thread when there were no replys. |
yeah me too |
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| gehzumteufel |
| quote: | Originally posted by Caela
thanks for the advice, guys.
it's a very ed up situation and i guess i'll have to come to terms with the fact that i really have done all that i can possibly do (and stay sane myself). some people need to learn that happiness does not linger on those around them. |
if you are exhausting yourself and it is depressing you then yes, unfortunately, you will have to just let it go. there is only so much you can do. beyond that it is up to him and the other people around him to fix the situation. |
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| inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by Marc Summers
"Although warning signs can be generalized, everyone is different."
If he is truly mentally unstable and suicidal, his thoughts are real. "Delusional" would the right word to describe it. |
I know. I'm just saying that he's probably not suicidal--just an --based on the fact that he's going around advertising it for attention. People who wind up committing suicide have warning signs, but telling other people is almost never one of them. |
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| Caela |
| getting him out of my life is not possible considering the small size of our city/aquaintances. if i had it my way, i would force him to see a doctor and get him on much needed medication. |
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