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*Updated* Shooting in Virginia school (pg. 9)
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| ogvh5150 |
As many of you can attest; drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, mdma, lsd to name a few are illegal and are banned yet you people can score some get high whenever you can and scream from the rooftops when the "man" has got you down whenever you people want to legalize it.
But when it comes to banning guns there are still people who manage (just like my drug analogy) to get a hold of a gun and there are people that cry from the rooftops to ban guns.
Truth be told there are some that shouldn't have a weapon in their hands but there are some that should who could have protected the 32 victims.
Those that claim there should be control do not see that the ones at the podium during the sound bites usually have armed guards or are armed themselves while us little people suffer at the hands of the criminals. |
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| Dopey |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Mass murderers are there because of YOUR war and how YOU put us there supposedly for search of WMDs and al Qaeda connections, remember? There's nothing more we can do to prevent this civil war except get more people killed. The numbers are already climbing higher than ever:
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r u serious? |
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| Shakka |
| Jesus Christ--is it possible to have any sort of meaningful discussion around here without devolving into a pissing war over George Bush? |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dopey
r u serious? |
Have I ever joked in regards to how I feel about the Iraq War? |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
Jesus Christ--is it possible to have any sort of meaningful discussion around here without devolving into a pissing war over George Bush? |
I'm more than happy to keep to the topic at hand, however when Q finds an opening to blame everyone BUT Bush for the Iraq debacle and wanting to get the hell outa there (i.e. the Democrats), you think I wouldn't respond?
My point was not to be tangential to the topic at hand. Rather, I was trying to point out that I don't think gun control laws is the stronger issue to bring up that points towards mass murders right now, and I used the Iraq War and the daily mass killings taking place there for a larger context. |
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| metalgearsolid |
You know where this topic needs to go? Why are "quiet loners" always the psychos?
EDIT*If incidents like this keep on happening half of PDD will never lose their virgenities... |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dupz
American children are more at risk from firearms than the children of any other industrialized nation. In one year, firearms killed no children in Japan, 19 in Great Britain, 57 in Germany, 109 in France, 153 in Canada, and 5,285 in the United States. (Centers for Disease Control)
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In a single year, 3,012 children and teens were killed by gunfire in the United States, according to the latest national data released in 2002. That is one child every three hours; eight children every day; and more than 50 children every week. And every year, at least 4 to 5 times as many kids and teens suffer from non-fatal firearm injuries. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)
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Between 1994 and 1999, there were 220 school associated violent events resulting in 253 deaths - - 74.5% of these involved firearms. Handguns caused almost 60% of these deaths. (Journal of American Medical Association, December 2001)
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Between 1979 and 2001, gunfire killed 90,000 children and teens in America. (Children's Defense Fund and National Center for Health Statistics)
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American kids are 16 times more likely to be murdered with a gun, 11 times more likely to commit suicide with a gun, and nine times more likely to die from a firearm accident than children in 25 other industrialized countries combined. (Centers for Disease Control)
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According to a report by the Joshephson Institute of Ethics (2000 Report Card: Report #1), 60% of high school and 31% of middle school boys said they could get a gun if they wanted to (April, 2001)
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i dont understand how anyone can argue against stats like these. |
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| metalgearsolid |
| ^ The thing is that facts aren't always accurate.....Im going to get flamed for that:p |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| quote: | Originally posted by metalgearsolid
^ The thing is that facts aren't always accurate.....Im going to get flamed for that:p |
thats true, but how large a margin of error would we need to see before those stats are meaningless? ;) |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
I'm more than happy to keep to the topic at hand, however when Q finds an opening to blame everyone BUT Bush for the Iraq debacle and wanting to get the hell outa there (i.e. the Democrats), you think I wouldn't respond?
My point was not to be tangential to the topic at hand. Rather, I was trying to point out that I don't think gun control laws is the stronger issue to bring up that points towards mass murders right now, and I used the Iraq War and the daily mass killings taking place there for a larger context. |
That wasn't necessarily directed solely at you.;) |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
That wasn't necessarily directed solely at you.;) |
Oh.
Sorry. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
Right on cue, the Phelps lunacy parade comes out of the woodworks. From Westboro Baptist Church (which I refuse to link):
| quote: | "WBC will preach at the funerals of the Virginia Tech students killed on campus during a shooting rampage April 16, 2007. You describe this as monumental horror, but you know nothing of horror -- yet. Your bloody tyrant Bush says he is 'horrified' by it all. You know nothing of horror -- yet. Your true horror is coming. 'They shall also gird themselves with sackloth, and horror shall cover them; and shame shall be upon all faces, and baldness upon all their heads' (Eze. 7:18).
Why did this happen, you ask? It's simple. Your military chose to shoot at the servants of God today, and all they got for their effort was terror. Then, the LORD your God sent a crazed madman to shoot at your children. Was God asleep while this took place? Was He on vacation? Of course not. He willed this to happen to punish you for assailing His servants." |
Unbelievable, yet predictable.
Hmmm, no wonder one of the Phelps' daughters told me today that her family wants to know her location throughout the day at all times. Makes sense now. |
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