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Intifada 2002 (pg. 11)
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| Proximus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Durafei
Gimme 3 examples where Israeli people provoked Palestinians? |
They continue building settlements on palistinian land and pushing palestinian out.
They call the palestinians that live in israel "cancer cells that needs to be removed"
When palestinians try to go to their work they get kicked down and insulted by israeli soldiers
their pregnant woman cant even go to the hospital
do you want me to continue? you my friend, are really ignorant... and its a damn shame.. a war is never made by one side, its made by two.. israel is just as filthy as the palestinians, try to get that into your thick skull.. but you cant, because your israeli and dont think about all the you guys do.. all you think about is all the palestinians do.. i pity you... |
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| Durafei |
All that stuff you listed is a result of suicide bombings. It is a result of Palestine provocation.
And none of that stuff you listed, KILLS Palestines !!!!!! IT doesn't KILL !!!
I can insult you, I can fight you, I can make your life a misery. But I don't deprive you of your chance to live ! I don't kill you !
SERIOUSLY, tell what would you do if you were Sharon? What would you do if Palestines continuously suicide bomb?? What would you do? |
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| Proximus |
Hahaha.. boy, if you want to know the root of all this stuff you need to go way back in history..
If I was Ariel Sharon, what would I do? I would negotiate, stop keeping the palestinian leader as a hostage and do my very best to negotiate. If then and only then the palestinians really didnt show any interest in negotiation i wouldnt have a choice then
i would close all doors, give them their land and then not let a single palestinian get in israel
but i cant solve this, neither cant you, neither cant sharon.. seems like no one can, because there is no right nor wrong anymore in this story.. its just like a sandbox game.. "you started it" "no you did" "did not" "did too"
catch my point? |
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| Tranex02 |
i agree with proximus.
Sharon just isn't taking the right steps.
Just now he refused a proposal made to him for international intervention. |
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| cweb |
The problem is Sharon is not a idiot in the way of meaning the good and doing the bad. He exactly knows what his actions lead and he WANTS Palisteneans to attack Isrealis so he could waive them out of Israel once it for all.
@yoepeus: I wouldnt call Amnesty International "biased". They are mabe a bit to "sensitive" but not "biased". |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by cweb
The problem is Sharon is not a idiot in the way of meaning the good and doing the bad. He exactly knows what his actions lead and he WANTS Palisteneans to attack Isrealis so he could waive them out of Israel once it for all.
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that is totally correct. Ariel Sharon indeed knows that if he can attack the palestinians and the palestinians use suicidekillings then Sharon can recounterattack very hard and try to totally drive out the palestinians from west bank and Gaza.
Nice facism strategy but it won't work mr Sharon son of Hitler.
You may have harassed, forced them not to work, killed them, tortured them, destroyed their homes but you can never ever kill their dream of their own state. |
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| cweb |
| George Bush showed his dumbness one more time when he called Sharon "a man for peace". Now, how DUMB is that? Let the fact that ASharon is by no means a peace-man not be discussed. But you, as the pres. of America, simply dont call Sharon that way. The Israeli folk will not attack the US, they dont need friendly words. On the other side the arab world is annoyed even more after this comment. thats just silly, man cant believe it a classical shot in the foot. |
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| RebeL9 |
I have from this day lost all respect for George W. Bush.
Calling Ariel Sharon "a man of peace" is like calling Hitler "a saint". |
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| Izzy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Proximus
They continue building settlements on palistinian land and pushing palestinian out.
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re-read my thread, there have been no new settlements or expansions of them in areas A and B of the disputed territories since 1993 (fact - as seen by the map someone here showed). we are not "pushing" the palestinians out, that is a lie and i want you to admit it.
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They call the palestinians that live in israel "cancer cells that needs to be removed"
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that was one idiotic parliment member who does not represent the majority view of israelis, i dare you to show me another, i can quote you a whole bunch from the palestinian authority who have said the same things about the israelis. the majority of israelis WANT a palestinian country by their side to live in peace and security, we just cant have that with the current palestinian authority.
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When palestinians try to go to their work they get kicked down and insulted by israeli soldiers
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how about the israeli citizens who get blown up while sitting for a cup of coffee? see a differnce?
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their pregnant woman cant even go to the hospital
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we've already given you various reasons why this takes place. take your anger out at arafat for not building adequate hospitals from the millions and millions of dollars he recieved from US aid since 1993. i wonder where all that money went? weapons, nahh couldnt be, theres just no proof of that :rolleyes::stongue:
| quote: | Hahaha.. boy, if you want to know the root of all this stuff you need to go way back in history..
If I was Ariel Sharon, what would I do? I would negotiate, stop keeping the palestinian leader as a hostage and do my very best to negotiate. If then and only then the palestinians really didnt show any interest in negotiation i wouldnt have a choice then
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already been done. agian how do you explain the whole peace proccess thats lasted for 7-8 years (1993-2000)? if you would have been following this prior to the past year you would have understood that we have already tried every means possible to negotiate for peace. furthermore, Dennis Ross the guy who was the closest from the united states in helping the two sides come together for peace during all of clintons presidency has concluded and been quoted as saying, Arafat has shown he does not want peace nor will there be as long as he is in power.
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i would close all doors, give them their land and then not let a single palestinian get in israel
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thats almost impossible to do. keep all palestinians out, ya thats makes sense, and what about those that want to visit family in israel? and what about when rockets start flying from palestinian areas into israel? what about the numerous organizations that wont stop their resistance (ie terrorist activities) until they get ALL of israel (hamas, islamic jihad... etc)?
thanks for showing me you understand so much about this issue |
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| Yoepus |
Originally posted by cweb
@yoepeus: I wouldnt call Amnesty International "biased". They are mabe a bit to "sensitive" but not "biased".
| quote: | Commission on Human Rights, 58th Session, 18 March - 26 April 2002 Agenda item 8: Question of the violation of human rights in the occupied Arab territories, including Palestine ORAL STATEMENT BY AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL Tuesday 2 April 2002
Armed Palestinians have breached fundamental principles of international humanitarian law on numerous occasions. It is not acceptable to deliberately target civilians, to let off a bomb where women and children are standing, to shoot a girl on a street, to arbitrarily target cars on roads or to kill people who are held as prisoners.
These actions are shocking. Yet they can never justify the human rights violations and grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions which, over the past 18 months, have been committed daily, hourly, even every minute, by the Israeli authorities against Palestinians. |
Again, they go on to assume that Israel "[violates] and [does] grave breaches of the Geneva Conventions which, over the past 18 months, have been committed daily, hourly, even every minute".
Yet from the same article they can't make the assumptions that Israel stops to check ambulances, and prevent them from entering war scenes at times do to the fact that they have been misused by the Palestinians, who would smuggle weapons, terrorist, and suicide bombers, to and fro using these same vehicles.
I will even admit I don't think the Palestinians have violate the geneva convention daily, hourly, even, every minute in the past 18 months.
If this is not clear cut bias, a diliberate action to hastly blame sides without doing research, and said only to achieve a political agenda I don't know what is.
Now, would you like me to disprove the UN as well?
Yoepus
A word to the wise ain't necessary, its the stupid ones who need all the advice. |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by RebeL9
Nice facism strategy but it won't work mr Sharon son of Hitler.
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I thought you were the son of Hitler... wait... are you twins?? NO! it can't be :eek: :eek: :eyes: :eyes:
Wait let me guess, your the evil one right?
Where do you learn this anti-semitism ? in school?.. no it couldn't have been there, they must have rejected you.
Wow! You probably worked on that post for hours. Your family's program of selective inbreeding appears to have resulted in success.
Go yourself... calling Sharon hitler is the last straw!
I have never directly called someone names on this forum before, but you are worthy of the new praise.
I see you never let an idea interrupt the flow of your conversation.
Go read a book without pictures and read some history. |
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| RebeL9 |
calm down you face. Seems like every anti-Israelpost is a pain in the ass for you. eater!
I hope you don't get any sleep at all and that a big ugly arab comes to your house and rape your entire family.
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