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Can i just say something after 6 months of DJing? (pg. 5)
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| nousplacidus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Smiley :D
Well after 6 months of DJing properly (having vinyl+CDJs) can i just say 1 word?
FADERS
sod the EQs, its all about faders, if you cant pull off a flawless tansition without touching the EQ theres something wrong, its all in smooth use of the faders
thats my 2p anyway
what made me realise this was coming from my behringer with a bloody annoying logarithmic curve where from 0-7 nothing happens, then 7-10 its all systems go, to ableton and a midi controller with a perfectly linear curve
so yeah, faders are awesome etc |
I don't know about no eqing, but I realized really quickly that I was over eqing. I think the best thing to do is to listen to your mixes afterward, thats how I realized it. |
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| Smiley :D |
| quote: | Originally posted by nousplacidus
I don't know about no eqing, but I realized really quickly that I was over eqing. I think the best thing to do is to listen to your mixes afterward, thats how I realized it. |
i record pretty much all my mixes, now when i listen to ones i recorded in february i notice lots more things wrong than when i listened to it last month etc, so its all good :) |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
For all the people talking about rotary faders...
In the past six months I've totally changed my mixing technique, and adopted the following method which I discovered through trial and error.
1. Beatmatch in my headphones
2. Cue the incomng track
3. Turn all EQs to "0" on the incoming
4. Bring the incoming fader up to 100%
5. Start the incoming track playing
6. Use each EQ appropriately.
The result is basically like using a rotary fader, except even more control. This method is not great for electro/electro-house (I'm inclined to bump the high and mid EQs in abruptly), but it's brilliant for trance and progressive.
To say that EQs are useless is just absurd. The best technical DJs I have seen (Desyn Masiello, Alex Kid), make sweet, tender, mechanical love to their EQs during every mix. Using faders only will never give you a result as good as a DJ using both. |
You still have to be careful when you mix like that, because not all mixers have EQ's that kill, and you can still get some gnarly sounds and clashing frequencies coming through through.
Moral of the Story: Learn to mix in as many different ways and on as many different mixers as possible, because you're not always going to be able to mix one way in everyt given situation. :)
And lol at saying Desyn Masiello is a good technical DJ - Have you ever seen or heard him live?  |
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| Jarvmeister |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
For all the people talking about rotary faders...
In the past six months I've totally changed my mixing technique, and adopted the following method which I discovered through trial and error.
1. Beatmatch in my headphones
2. Cue the incomng track
3. Turn all EQs to "0" on the incoming
4. Bring the incoming fader up to 100%
5. Start the incoming track playing
6. Use each EQ appropriately.
The result is basically like using a rotary fader, except even more control. This method is not great for electro/electro-house (I'm inclined to bump the high and mid EQs in abruptly), but it's brilliant for trance and progressive.
To say that EQs are useless is just absurd. The best technical DJs I have seen (Desyn Masiello, Alex Kid), make sweet, tender, mechanical love to their EQs during every mix. Using faders only will never give you a result as good as a DJ using both. |
I'm guessing you must be using a pre eq monitoring mixer, like an A&H?
The 800 doesn't do this, I wish it had the feature. It also doesn't have full kill on the EQs, although I'd never use that anyway.
Jarv |
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| idoru |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Moral of the Story: Learn to mix in as many different ways and on as many different mixers as possible, because you're not always going to be able to mix one way in everyt given situation. :) |
Bingo. Also, while a certain type of EQ/fader/filter adjustment may work for one transition, it might not be the same for another transition. Every track you bring in/out is going to need to be adjusted differently because not every track is constructed exactly the same. |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| i would be lost without my EQs :) |
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| pkcRAISTLIN |
| i would be lost without my EQs :) |
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| theognis1002 |
If u just use volume faders you dont even have to switch the bass off on one of the tracks?
when i do it the bass gets too high |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
You still have to be careful when you mix like that, because not all mixers have EQ's that kill, and you can still get some gnarly sounds and clashing frequencies coming through through. |
My mixer does have kill switches, but I don't use them at all because I don't like the complete filter effect they give.
I agree with you though, even when all my EQs are down to 0%, there is still "gnarly sounds", though very faint. This is why I'm always careful not to mix in during a breakdown or particularly quiet part of the track. This way you can't hear anything of the incoming track.
If the track is too quiet and there will be clashing frequencies, I use a different method.
| quote: | | Originally posted by RJT Moral of the Story: Learn to mix in as many different ways and on as many different mixers as possible, because you're not always going to be able to mix one way in everyt given situation. :) |
Agree 100% with you there. I have three or four techniques that I use, depending on the genre, breakdowns and crowd response etc. Sometimes my transitions last for 2 minutes, at other times they can be as short at ten or 15 seconds.
| quote: | | Originally posted by RJT And lol at saying Desyn Masiello is a good technical DJ - Have you ever seen or heard him live? |
Yes. I was up the front the whole time watching him. He is a hell of a lot more precise than most DJs I have seen. |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by Jarvmeister
I'm guessing you must be using a pre eq monitoring mixer, like an A&H?
The 800 doesn't do this, I wish it had the feature. It also doesn't have full kill on the EQs, although I'd never use that anyway.
Jarv |
Vestax PCV-275 at home.
Used this technique fine on a DJM 600 and a few other club mixers too though. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
Yes. I was up the front the whole time watching him. He is a hell of a lot more precise than most DJs I have seen. |
Hmmmm, the times I've seen him/live sets I've heard from him seem to be very, very off. |
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| Smiley :D |
| has anyone got any videos of pros mixing? i mean close ups so you can see them use the faders and EQs |
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