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Sorry but i just need to know this... who in the world is Sean Tyas??? (pg. 8)
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| eRRaTiK |
| quote: | Originally posted by Koris
i believe you didn't read well, i wasn't talking about sean's music but about the fact that some guy said that people react mostly to the melody of a track. Which is not false but it's a bit simple to reduce dance music to the melody. |
He's not reducing dance music to melody. He's stating that in most cases the majority of the crowd will pick up on the melody first before anything else. Not everybody there knows what a synth, percussion, build up, breakdown, etc. is.
It only takes one bar or a couple of chords for me to identify a track and start jumping up and down and screaming like a lunatic. I don't hear a build up/breakdown/percussion/other and go "hey that's xxxx track!" or "I recognise this tune". Though these days I can recognise basslines more than I could a few years ago (pre-EDM).
Of course there's always going to be hardcore music fans who can pull a track apart into its different elements when listening to it but they would make a small percentage of a crowd. |
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| Surfmorworkless |
| quote: | Originally posted by Victor Dinaire
Sean is a hardworking individual who is finally getting the respect he deserves.
He's originally from New York, now resides in Switzerland.
Some people can be unfairly harsh critics on this board when it comes to his productions. For example, his remix to Lost In Love, some people say that his remix wasn't any good and it shouldn't have been touched. Judging from the monstrous crowd response each time it gets played, I would have to say he did a kick ass job
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Also check Lift, and his rework to Diary Of Jane as well |
Looking forward to Seeing you at club XO next week:D ! |
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| DJ Patski |
| So...anyone know when Drop is going to be released? :happy2: |
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| DJ Patski |
| quote: | Originally posted by djpaulino
nice avatar |
thanks :)
god damn.. AC/DC - Thunderstuck (Sean Tyas Remix) owns me... or rework.. whatever the hell it is. |
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| Push2005 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Koris
i believe you didn't read well, i wasn't talking about sean's music but about the fact that some guy said that people react mostly to the melody of a track. Which is not false but it's a bit simple to reduce dance music to the melody.
And also what experience this guy has to say such things. |
Of course you are defending this... You did the same thing.
What the hell where you thinking reworking "Der Dritte Raum - Hale Bopp" :wtf:
That's just sad. |
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| Koris |
| quote: | Originally posted by Push2005
Of course you are defending this... You did the same thing.
What the hell where you thinking reworking "Der Dritte Raum - Hale Bopp" :wtf:
That's just sad. |
lol
welcome to TA :) |
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| nikhil chinapa |
@ Idoru - read your background in music.
See you in a whole new light.
FTR..yes I concur, the masses react to melody aka the "hummable bit in the song".. which also means if the postman can hum it, it'll be a hit (borrowed).
In India, if you can combine melody with tribal percussion (especially a drum called the dhol, you'll pretty much destroy people's minds...
That's also why Richard Durand goes down rather well this part of the world....:p |
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| narcism |
| quote: | Originally posted by DJ Patski
thanks :)
god damn.. AC/DC - Thunderstuck (Sean Tyas Remix) owns me... or rework.. whatever the hell it is. |
haha when he dropped that i was like oh noes
:nervous:
but his set from last friday was ing awesome, people bag his productions but he sure puts on a great show.. :D |
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| G-Con |
I dont care to comment about Sean Tyas but have to chip in about the classics Remixes going down well in the club.
You cant whatsoever say that Sean Tyas should get credit for making the crowd go mental when they hear a classic tune that Tyas has remixed. The crowd loves the classic. They hear a remix played, they still love it. The majority couldn't even tell the difference between the original and the remix. Its the work of the original producer that should always get the credit as its the elements of the track that he/she created that the crowd goes nuts for.
As others have said, play the original and the crowd will be just as happy (if not more) as they are when hearing a remix. |
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| isoterra |
| quote: | Originally posted by idoru
Other elements matter, yes. However when it all boils down to it, people want melody; ever wonder why Techno, Minimal and Tech House don't get loved too much by most of the people here? When the Trance fans listen to it they don't like it because it's "boring" and "has no melody." ...... wait? No melody? They don't like it because it has no melody? But it has a ing sick bassline and percussion! It's such a shame you don't like it because it lacks a melody! |
whilst i'm agreeing with most of what you're saying.. isn't this a bit of a contradiction to the point you were making earlier? i think it's fair to say people aren't purely attracted to trance because of the melodies.. many many trance tunes also get praised because of their 'ing sick bassline and percussion', as opposed to the melody. in my experience some tunes with barely any melody have caused some of the biggest reactions in trance clubs..
so going by that, a remake with a familiar melody & killer backing track could easily invoke a greater response than the same melody on a weaker backing track. since you effectively said yourself that a 'ing sick bassline and percussion' is as great an asset as any melody..
note, i'm not defending tyas's work here; i think his remakes have been e. but remakes as a concept, i've never been against (unless they're a blatant cash-in) |
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| RebeL9 |
| quote: | Originally posted by isoterra
whilst i'm agreeing with most of what you're saying.. isn't this a bit of a contradiction to the point you were making earlier? i think it's fair to say people aren't purely attracted to trance because of the melodies.. many many trance tunes also get praised because of their 'ing sick bassline and percussion', as opposed to the melody. in my experience some tunes with barely any melody have caused some of the biggest reactions in trance clubs..
so going by that, a remake with a familiar melody & killer backing track could easily invoke a greater response than the same melody on a weaker backing track. since you effectively said yourself that a 'ing sick bassline and percussion' is as great an asset as any melody..
note, i'm not defending tyas's work here; i think his remakes have been e. but remakes as a concept, i've never been against (unless they're a blatant cash-in) |
I don't agree. If you look at any ASOT-thread you will se that people rave mostly about the tunes with a strong melody. They don't bother with the rest. It's like they see the buildup as a transportational part and everyone is like "omg here comes the break with the melody!!!" |
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| Sykonee |
| quote: | Originally posted by isoterra
note, i'm not defending tyas's work here; i think his remakes have been e. but remakes as a concept, i've never been against (unless they're a blatant cash-in) |
I think that's what most folks believe is the problem: Tyas using well-worn classics to elevate his own career -essentially standing on the shoulders of others (which isn't much different than, say, DJ Sammy or Cascada, eh?). Whether that is the case or not remains to be seen, but you can't ignore the fact all this talk of Tyas wouldn't exist if he hadn't done all those remixes. |
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