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| clubamerica |
| quote: | Originally posted by Clovis
Oh noes, he's goin to hell! :nervous: |
LOL.. all u want 2 bro.Hell does exist.:eek: |
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| Sunsnail |
| damn you convinced me. |
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| Ian |
| quote: | Originally posted by clubamerica
LOL.. all u want 2 bro.Hell does exist.:eek: |
lemme guess, It's San Jose?
Seriously, religion is bull. Each & Every bit of it. Why believe in what people tell us happened hundreds & thousands of years ago when we can take the free will that most of us have, and make a choice to be a good person, but not need a priest or vicar or imman to tell us. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
how can faith not be blind? i mean, given the nature of what faith is- an unsubstantiated belief. |
You always amuse me with your challenges to my positions. The idea of blind faith (in anything) is a belief in something based only on having been told it is true. If one approaches their faith/religion/beliefs with a critical eye, examines it, scrutenizes it, and arrives at their final position based on reasonable deduction then it cannot be considered blind. Your position suggests that one should abandon belief in anything that cannot be documented with empirical evidence.... if that is the case then I'm afraid you'll have to abandon belief in a great deal of what we consider knowledge, as much of it is based more on deduction then hard evidence. Dark matter is a good example of this... we believe in it's existance because without it all of what we "know" to be true about the universe breaks down, yet we cannot measure it, observe it, or provide any hard evidence of it. Taking your position with regard to dark matter would ultimately necessitate that we abandon all our "beliefs" with regard to physics. Personally, I'm not willing to do that. Any logical person, governed by reason, is capable of examining the available evidence, weighing it, and extrapolating a reasonable conclusion from it. What is considered reasonable is often the result of the credibility one assesses to the available evidence, however, following a critical analysis the end conclusion cannot be considered uninformed, even if it may ultimately be incorrect. |
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| lex400sc |
this book is great; better than anything richard dawkins has put out. it eloquently explains the 4 major reasons why the concept of god is corrosive to the fabric of society in the most diplomatic terms possible. |
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| RJT |
I think the way Hitchins portrays religion in that book is very narrow and focused, which is fine due to the enormous socio-political impact of religion on modern, media driven society. I do, however, think he fails to acknowledge the important role religion has played in creating moral gestalts over the course of human history.
I disagree with much in that book, but it is an absolutely terrific read, and Hitchins is a very, very smart man. |
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| FallingMoon |
It's all about Scientology HELLO!!!
:rolleyes:
w/e all religion is evil
BAN it. |
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| RJT |
| quote: | Originally posted by FallingMoon
w/e all religion is evil
BAN it. |
Comments like this really make me cringe, hard. |
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| all-nite-freak |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ian
lemme guess, It's San Jose?
Seriously, religion is bull. Each & Every bit of it. Why believe in what people tell us happened hundreds & thousands of years ago when we can take the free will that most of us have, and make a choice to be a good person, but not need a priest or vicar or imman to tell us. |
i would feel that way too if i had pretty eyes like yours...i saw your pic once and told myself there was no god after that. |
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| FallingMoon |
| quote: | Originally posted by RJT
Comments like this really make me cringe, hard. |
ah I'm sorry Rob!
I don't think it's evil I just don't agree with how biased it is and honestly IMO pretty contradictory. |
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| trewqy |
throughout the history of mankind, majority of humans just need something to hold onto.
Science cannot answer all the questions, so some turn to philosophy in some sheer hope that they could put some meaning for something that a human brain can never grasp.
Religion cant be destroyed. I have spoken to many of those religious peeps on how religion is so flawed..and after all my rambling, they still just cant accept it. Their idea of heaven and hell is so fused into their brains that no evidence will ever change their faith in god/jesus/allah/shiva..etc etc.
Turns out god is immortal afterall. |
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| Moral Hazard |
| quote: | Originally posted by FallingMoon
ah I'm sorry Rob!
I don't think it's evil I just don't agree with how biased it is and honestly IMO pretty contradictory. |
Sorry Lis, but most of ther perceived contradictions in various religions are the result of people's inadequate understanding of the subjects in question or, moreover, people making judgements and assessments based on a meer cursorary review of the documents available. If people were to take the time to do proper research and a critical analysis they would find that most of the perceived contradictions are not so.
With regard to evil, no religion or belief system of any ilk is good or evil. A religion is just a system of beliefs with perscribed practice for the believers to follow - no more, no less. Granted, acts that one may consider evil have been carried out in the names of nearly all religions, however, those are evil acts committed by people in the name of a religion, not by the religion itself. There will always be those that pervert and distort the beliefs of another to fit their own needs and achieve their own ends... this is a failing of the individual, not the belief system. |
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