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| Frenchie |
| Oh, we love the states? lol jk |
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| emonster4life |
1. dubfire
2. markus shultz
3. danny tenaglia
4. gabrielle and dresden
5. roger sanchez
6. dj dan
7. david morales
8. sandra collins
9. christopher lawrence
10. WMC |
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| Scolomon |
| quote: | Originally posted by emonster4life
1. dubfire
2. markus shultz
3. danny tenaglia
4. gabrielle and dresden
5. roger sanchez
6. dj dan
7. david morales
8. sandra collins
9. christopher lawrence
10. WMC |
11. Sandra Collins |
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| 7-4-7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
Last time I checked, 53% of Canadians are in support of Afghanistan.
Doubt there is much support for Iraq. (Heck, even I'm against that one) |
dunno about that...guess it all depends on where you get your facts from.
article written July 12, 2007 at 5:58 PM EDT
"OTTAWA — A growing number of Canadians, especially in Quebec, say the rising death toll among troops in Afghanistan is too high a price to pay for helping the troubled country, suggests a new poll.
A Canadian Press-Decima Research survey shows 67 per cent of those asked believe the number of casualties has been unacceptable, a five-percentage-point rise from a poll taken a little over a month ago.
Only 25 per cent of respondents said the number of killed and wounded was acceptable, in a survey taken following the most recent deaths of six soldiers in a roadside bomb attack.
Bruce Anderson, CEO of Decima Research, said Canadians are clearly becoming more doubtful about whether progress is being made, in light of the deaths of 66 soldiers and one diplomat in Afghanistan."
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| EvilTree |
| quote: | Originally posted by 7-4-7
dunno about that...guess it all depends on where you get your facts from.
article written July 12, 2007 at 5:58 PM EDT
"OTTAWA — A growing number of Canadians, especially in Quebec, say the rising death toll among troops in Afghanistan is too high a price to pay for helping the troubled country, suggests a new poll.
A Canadian Press-Decima Research survey shows 67 per cent of those asked believe the number of casualties has been unacceptable, a five-percentage-point rise from a poll taken a little over a month ago.
Only 25 per cent of respondents said the number of killed and wounded was acceptable, in a survey taken following the most recent deaths of six soldiers in a roadside bomb attack.
Bruce Anderson, CEO of Decima Research, said Canadians are clearly becoming more doubtful about whether progress is being made, in light of the deaths of 66 soldiers and one diplomat in Afghanistan."
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Your article is also about 10 days from today :p Not to mention it's kinda worded funny, so it doesn't clearly ask the question to the person being surveyed whether they are for, or against Afghanistan.
Suffice to say support for Afghanistan hovers somewhere around 50%, less when news about Canadian soldiers dying comes out, and a little more when a news about Canadian achievements in Afghanistan comes out. *shrug*
If you also take out Quebec which is most vehemently against Afghanistan, I guess the opinion poll swings a lot too.
Doesn't quite help the fact that politicians are trying to score points off of each other, with Stephane Dion accusing Harper of being Bush Jr (again) and Layton blabbering about peacekeeping (as if he as any clue what peacekeeping is) and about negotiating with Taliban. (like if they can find Mullah Omar and get him to sign a binding agreement) |
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| emonster4life |
| quote: | Originally posted by Scolomon
11. Sandra Collins |
um did u see #8? |
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| LoveHate |
lol at american drinking age being the highest in the world 21
also lol at american marijuana laws u can get life for having some bud but a rapist gets 5 years :haha: |
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| LoveHate |
| americans love rapist and child molesters |
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| Invasionmix |
| quote: | Originally posted by LoveHate
lol at american drinking age being the highest in the world 21
also lol at american marijuana laws u can get life for having some bud but a rapist gets 5 years :haha: |
lol +1 |
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| 7-4-7 |
| quote: | Originally posted by EvilTree
Your article is also about 10 days from today :p Not to mention it's kinda worded funny, so it doesn't clearly ask the question to the person being surveyed whether they are for, or against Afghanistan.
Suffice to say support for Afghanistan hovers somewhere around 50%, less when news about Canadian soldiers dying comes out, and a little more when a news about Canadian achievements in Afghanistan comes out. *shrug*
If you also take out Quebec which is most vehemently against Afghanistan, I guess the opinion poll swings a lot too.
Doesn't quite help the fact that politicians are trying to score points off of each other, with Stephane Dion accusing Harper of being Bush Jr (again) and Layton blabbering about peacekeeping (as if he as any clue what peacekeeping is) and about negotiating with Taliban. (like if they can find Mullah Omar and get him to sign a binding agreement) |
a whopping 10 days from today!...oh how I can only imagine how the tides of support have moved the entire nation to be behind this mission....:rolleyes: It seems rather logical that support wanes when people die in Afghanistan, considering each time that happens those of us here tacitly reevaluate how we feel about it. When someone dies do we not ask ourselves if this is a cause worth losing 1 single Canadian over? More often people say no.
if you take out Quebec sure, but since we are, for some reason removing key provinces, why not take out Alberta?
Who cares about the politics of it for one second, this is about cold hard support by Canadians.
While I find some of the options you've mentioned in the political realm somewhat amusing as well , I would much prefer to live in a country that entertains alternative, less violent options rather than to solve each solution by adding more troops or testing their newest technology on the "terrorists". |
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| EvilTree |
| quote: | Originally posted by 7-4-7
a whopping 10 days from today!...oh how I can only imagine how the tides of support have moved the entire nation to be behind this mission....:rolleyes: |
You'd be surprised... Public opinion is a very fickle thing.
IIRC, George Bush had over 90% popularity rating, but couldn't get reelected.
| quote: | | It seems rather logical that support wanes when people die in Afghanistan, considering each time that happens those of us here tacitly reevaluate how we feel about it. When someone dies do we not ask ourselves if this is a cause worth losing 1 single Canadian over? More often people say no. |
All members of Canadian Forces are volunteers. Meaning, when they sign the dotted line, they know that they may be going on tours, or other dangerous things that happen to get them killed. Considering most of them actually support the mission, because they're the ones that are on site, the ones to see what is actually going on in Afghanistan and seeing the results of their efforts actually bearing fruition, compared to politicians who barely step outside Kandahar Airfield, let alone go to the hot spots, few journalists that come to Afghanistan for few days (most who write the articles haven't) and the general public who cannot say that they are knowledgeable about the mission, but swayed by generalities, ignorance and bias.
So I find it ironic that some Canadians take it very personal whenever a Canadian soldier dies in Afghanistan, like their family just died. (As if they know the soldiers who died)
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if you take out Quebec sure, but since we are, for some reason removing key provinces, why not take out Alberta? |
What's the population of Alberta vs Quebec? Montreal area probably has more people than entire province of Alberta.
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Who cares about the politics of it for one second, this is about cold hard support by Canadians. |
I wish Afghanistan wasn't about politics. But face it, it is deep rooted in politics.| quote: |
While I find some of the options you've mentioned in the political realm somewhat amusing as well , I would much prefer to live in a country that entertains alternative, less violent options rather than to solve each solution by adding more troops or testing their newest technology on the "terrorists". |
Perhaps you'd volunteer to go negotiate with Taliban, who'd seem to taken to kidnapping, getting kids to behead supposed spies, burning down schools and hospitals and other 'violent' acts.
Kinda hard to negotiate with someone who doesn't want to negotiate with good faith. |
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| yankeeBaby |
| quote: | Originally posted by MKpacha
11. Grinder |
hey what about me? lol ;) |
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