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Do you like trance music? (pg. 9)
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | | Yes, and I know how much I hate it (personal opinion). This country is so DOMINATED by hip-hop clubs that I rarely even go. |
No but I mean REAL hip-hop, not this garbage we hear on Mtv. Like 80's and early to mid 90's hip-hop.
| quote: | | Callin the played on MTV etc. hip-hop is as big a disgrace to real hip-hop as calling Ian Van Dahl and DJ Sammy trance. |
true story. |
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| Spirit5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by wotyzoid
No but I mean REAL hip-hop, not this garbage we hear on Mtv. Like 80's and early to mid 90's hip-hop. |
Call me ignorant but I always thought "hip hop" was the culture and "rap" was the music. But I've also thought that "hip hop" was the backing beat, and what people did on top of the beats produced was "rap". But I never really thought that they were seperate genres. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spirit5
Call me ignorant but I always thought "hip hop" was the culture and "rap" was the music. But I've also thought that "hip hop" was the backing beat, and what people did on top of the beats produced was "rap". But I never really thought that they were seperate genres. |
I'm no expert either, but yes hip-hop itself is a culture. I guess we can also compare it to edm or rock per say with a lot of subgenres. ie. gangster rap, east coast style, dirty south style. Anyway I'm just guessing. But what I meant to say was hip-hop as in the music first created, by all the first groups and artist. |
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| GeminiZ |
| definitely a die hard fan of progressive epic but not too attached to technoish anthem stuff. |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by chadi
I dance to trance almost the same as house. In fact, many trance tracks have adopted the more tribal sound which is very congenial for dancing.
If you don't know how people dance to house, well I guess you'd have to go to a club to find out, I don't know how to explain it. |
I know how to dance to house, you daft bastard. Clubs play little else where I go out, so I have no other choice. However, house is usually 20bpm slower than trance and actually has:
1) A decent bassline.
2) Some funk.
The only trance that I find danceable is the slower, proggy stuff.
| quote: | | ...But if you think hiphop is better for dancing then you probably agree with most American clubbers as that's all they seem to know how to groove to. I've tried and I can't figure out how it's done. |
It seems the easiest thing to dance to in the world to me. The tempo is slow enough for you to easily coordinate your body in time to the rhythm, and it's laden with funk. |
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| chadi |
| quote: | Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
I know how to dance to house, you daft bastard. Clubs play little else where I go out, so I have no other choice. However, house is usually 20bpm slower than trance and actually has:
1) A decent bassline.
2) Some funk. |
So is it really that hard to invision dancing just slightly faster? :happy2: Besides, a lot of trance and house nowadays are having similar BPMs. Too bad there's hardly any quality trance anymore though....I end up going right back to the oldies. But I have to say that the bassline argument is probably flimsy, at best. The bassline all depends on the song and I can't figure out how that would make such a world of difference.
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The only trance that I find danceable is the slower, proggy stuff. |
I find it quite easy dancing to both, but good for you.
| quote: | | It seems the easiest thing to dance to in the world to me. The tempo is slow enough for you to easily coordinate your body in time to the rhythm, and it's laden with funk. |
For me, it doesn't have the driving beat to even prompt me to dance. Not to mention the lack of anything savory in the music itself. |
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| blackmonkey |
| A decent bassline is indeed important to dancing, that's why i'm digging progressive music more than trance these days. But I still listen to a bit of trance, but only uplifting ones.:D |
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| SYSTEM-J |
| quote: | Originally posted by chadi
But I have to say that the bassline argument is probably flimsy, at best. The bassline all depends on the song and I can't figure out how that would make such a world of difference. |
The bassline is a fundamental part of the groove of the track. They're a vital part of the rhythm. And in trance, basslines are typically just one or two notes, that simply pulse away in the background, (unless we're talking about one of those God-awful Anjunabeats tracks that has a chunky saw-wave "electro" bassline).
There's hardly any variation or syncopation in the rhythm of trance: the kicks, hi-hats and bass all fall regularly on every beat, so there's nothing to do. If you take a hip-hop track a different thing happens for each beat of each bar, usually on both the percussive and bassline levels. That's what I dance to. When I find myself impulsively moving to trance, it'll be a regular action to the bass drum: nodding my head for example. I can't find any regular action for my shoulders or feet or hips, so they don't have much to do impulsively. The only regular 1-2-3-4-1-2-3-4 action that involves your whole body is jumping, which I found myself doing impulsively when I saw Faithless live and an anthem like Insomnia dropped, but I couldn't do that on a dancefloor in a club for hours on end. |
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| wotyzoid |
| quote: | | But I have to say that the bassline argument is probably flimsy, at best. The bassline all depends on the song and I can't figure out how that would make such a world of difference. |
yep, you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. And you were trying to tell me wat to like before......oh the irony. |
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| chadi |
System-J,
No need to get confused here. Our disagreement has nothing to do with whether a decent bassline is important or not, it probably has more to do with our interpretation of what is a good bassline for dancing. Like all forms of electronic music, not all trance is fit for the dancefloor – perhaps you’re getting needlessly lost in particulars, hence my comment before. Trance and house are synonymously the easiest forms of EDM for me to dance to…and I’m not talking about jumping around and bopping my head. I think variation in the style of songs played is also important for keeping the crowd dancing.
wotyzoid,
| quote: | | yep, you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. And you were trying to tell me wat to like before......oh the irony. |
Please show me where I told you what music to like. If you can’t, please retract your statement. |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by chadi
System-J,
No need to get confused here. Our disagreement has nothing to do with whether a decent bassline is important or not, it probably has more to do with our interpretation of what is a good bassline for dancing. Like all forms of electronic music, not all trance is fit for the dancefloor – perhaps you’re getting needlessly lost in particulars, hence my comment before. Trance and house are synonymously the easiest forms of EDM for me to dance to…and I’m not talking about jumping around and bopping my head. I think variation in the style of songs played is also important for keeping the crowd dancing.
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You try so hard to seem intelligent. |
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| chadi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
You try so hard to seem intelligent. |
I'm glad you think so...:wtf: |
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