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Anyone here vegetarian? (pg. 2)
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| Dr. DAS |
| quote: | "Imagine an uprising of vegetables. That's what we may be up against soon unless we start laying off the vegetables."
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| Skipper |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dr. DAS
I will admit that my omnivorous nature has an impact. No problem.
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ok good :)
Personally I was surprised to learn what I did about the impact of a carnivorous diet. It's worth learning about IMO. |
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| chinamon |
i love eating beef, pork, some chicken, cat, dog, rat, hamster, rabbit, etc.
if you choose to not eat that stuff then fine. more for me! :p
what i cannot stand are the people that preach about not eating meat. my dad is a pharmacist and he has tons of people that became vegetarians many years ago when they were younger and still practice it but they need to take number supplements to make up for the stuff their body is lacking. but whatever.. to each their own. |
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| exstasie |
| If you ain't Vegan...thank your a fag ! |
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| Cosmic Fur |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
If you ain't Vegan...thank your a fag ! |
Quoted cause I know Jeff will edit when he comes to again. |
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| exstasie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
Quoted cause I know Jeff will edit when he comes to again. |
haha...i dunno...
I don't think there's been a meal where I haven't had Meat! I almost threw up today cause I accidently took an eggplant sandwich at work :nervous:
I can't believe people are still eating vegetables...so overrated! |
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| Cosmic Fur |
| No I meant... just read what you wrote again, man. :p |
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| exstasie |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
No I meant... just read what you wrote again, man. :p |
DAMN IT haha |
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| exstasie |
Oops...i guess I pressed quote instead of EDIt...
Not my day haha |
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| EvilTree |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
This is a really superficial argument - have you researched the environmental effects of vegetarianism at all? Doesn't sound like it. The human population has drastically inflated that element of the food chain - the number of animals bred specifically for human consumption is many many times greater than how animals exist in nature. Furthermore, the scope of resources - financial and otherwise - that are invested into the meat "industry" are entirely excessive.
- A meat based diet requires 7 times more land than a vegetarian one
- Meat production requires 10-20 times more energy per edible tonne than grain production
- animal products require more energy for processing, packaging and storing compared to vegetables
These are just a few considerations....I'm all for everyone making their own decisions but at least inform yourself before doing so. There are more compelling reasons to be a vegetarian other than "animals are cute" which is often how veggies get perceived. |
I admit that I haven't researched the meat industry, but I'd argue that domestication of animals for human consumption has always been part of all human civilizations.
Unless you're arguing that domestication of animals is inherently wrong from the times of ancient civilizations, I'd say modern meat industry is just evolution of food chain, that's all. |
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| Kamka |
Hi people :) Thank you for your replies. It's good to see a discussion develop :) I guess I'll write a little bit about myself and my own experiences with this thing. I was raised as a child as your typical meat-eater: I was given beef, pork, veal, poultry, fish, even liver, which I despised, hated, and I still despise and hate it today (it makes me wanna throw up when I put it in my mouth, don't know why but it has always been that way, ever since I can remember). When I was around 12, I've read a book about vegetarianism (written by a vegetarian, of course) that tried to promote it based on various arguments, i.e. ethical (it's bad to cause cruelty and indecent suffering to animals), health (eating meat and especially red meat is unhealthy, it can cause digestive track cancer and so on), it's environmentally unfriendly (as Skipper mentioned), etc. The book was divided into two halves, the first half was this intro to vegetarianism and the other half was comprised of recipes for vegetarian meals, which were sometimes adapted from regular meat-meals by the author's wife. As I was reading this book, I started to consider the issues in it and decided that I wanted to become a vegetarian myself. At that time though, I didn't have much support of my family who thought it was sort of silly or a whim, so in the end it didn't work out. I have however stopped eating red meat (beef, pork, veal) for about seven years now and don't plan to start ever again. I also try to avoid products made from these things, like beef soup stock... I do still eat poultry, fish, and sometimes seafood. And I do eat a lot of chicken and turkey now, and to be honest I'd find it hard now to stop eating that, especially since it's so easy to cook... and I love the taste of freshly baked chicken... it's a taste whim really coupled with the idea that's pounded into you from all sides that you do need at least [I]some[/I} meat.
I do have a cousin, however, who decided to stop eating all meat altogether when she was 10.5. I've known her ever since she was a baby (she's ten years younger than me), and even when she was a tiny toddler she loved animals and was very excited and happy to see a photo close-up of a Canadian squirrel, for example. She decided later (don't know exactly how old she was) that she wanted to become a vet in the future, and I guess she made it her 2002 New Year resolution that she would stop eating all meat. My grandfather wrote to me that up till the end of 2001 she ate at least chicken and fish, but ever since the new year came she refused to eat all meat and her mom was thus forced to cook separate meals for her. She's sixteen years old now and she still kept it up succesfully, as the only one in her family (and the only one in our larger family too). She also doesn't like leather products and her brother (my other cousin) told me that she even refuses to touch meat at home, unless it's canned meat for their dogs. Although I can kind of praise her for this strong resolve and determination (she still wants to be a vet and has excellent marks in school and even volunteers at a pet clinic to gain experience, I was told), I sometimes wonder whether it will not backfire onto her some time later in the future, like for example if she'll want to have kids... Maybe the lack of those proteins while she was growing up will affect her health and then she'll regret it later when she's older? Who knows... This is where my original question as to whether you'd be willing to accomodate your kid if they decided to go veggie stems from.
As for the "religious" question, that comes from my own experience when some people found it strange that I'd choose not to eat certain meats even though my religion does not expressely prohibits it. I'm actually not big into organised religion but was baptised a Lutheran at age eight (at my own request). When I was in high school, I had one Muslim girl for a friend, and we once talked about this and she said "but why wouldn't you eat pork, your religion doesn't prohibit it". At another time, I was talking to a co-worker who was also a Christian, and she was like "but the Bible doesn't say that you cannot eat meat, so why not eat it? The Bible never says that anywhere that you cannot". And she just kept repeating this over and over again as if it was simply incomprehensible that one might choose to follow dietary restrictions for other than religious reasons. So that's why I posed that.
Thanks for your responses guys, keep them coming :) And sorry for the long post but that's me :) |
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