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DJs who don't love music... (pg. 2)
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| ASFSE |
| quote: | Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles
The stuff he mentioned is hardly very technical. |
i guess you're right
but still...it's about getting ed up and laid...not the music. LOL |
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| inconspicuous |
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
(It's not that they're trying to withhold their "fresh" new tracks from me either) |
actually, it's fairly likely that that's exactly what they're doing. A lot of people are very protective of the stuff they find, especially now that mentioning a track gives someone else instant access to it (there's no variable of whether or not he can find it in a record shop or if it's even being sold anymore). With all the new technology available, adequate mixing isn't so hard to come by. Meanwhile, the number of tracks available has skyrocketed, making for a huge gap in the quality of track selection. It really just boils down to confidence. The better you feel about your own skills, the less you're bound to care about revealing your 'secrets.'
| quote: | Originally posted by Beat Blog
I know a reasonably popular local DJ who goes to the record store every week, spends four hours listening to tunes, then goes home and illegally downloads all the tracks he's heard without buying a single record! :wtf: That's the kind of I'm talking about. |
What a waste of effort. :stongue: |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by inconspicuous
actually, it's fairly likely that that's exactly what they're doing. |
No, it's not.
I'm talking about acquaintances and friends here; I can tell when they're lying. Most of them are happy to share track names with me if they can ever remember! |
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| saluyamo |
| They could just be tired, if they arent into the music then why are they a DJ? |
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| HaeD |
| People don't love music neway, so the DJ don't matter, it's all about boose and drug. In fact, it's better for the club if the DJ dont care |
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| Beat Blog |
| quote: | Originally posted by saluyamo
They could just be tired, if they arent into the music then why are they a DJ? |
Bah!
You people are frustrating.
I'm not talking about one specific instance here.
I'm talking about six or eight people, all of whom I've noticed this trend in over the last year or so, on many occasions, in many different social settings.
OK???????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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| saluyamo |
| quote: | | I'm talking about six or eight people |
Then its probably like what HaeD said, their are there for the booze/chicks etc |
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| MrsPiemont |
First off, there are 4 ways to get gigs.
1. Have contacts
This means you can be utter crap and still play. It is because of who you know, not what you know.
2. Have lots of friends
A club will often let these people play because they can guarantee a strong attendance. Attendance equates profit. The music is always 2nd (if even that) to profit.
3. Be so good they can't say no.
This is one of the rare ones. some Dj's are just so talented that clubs will take chances knowing they have a genuine shot of being something special. This makes attendance not as important for the first few gigs. This is done to try and bank on having one of the area's best residents before anyone else. This can lead to big draws down the line. If no one shows after a while, its bye bye good or not. (Usually production is the big factor in this. A DJ that produces will always be more bankable and a better risk to take.)
4. Be close with big talent. (could be under contacts but not the same.
The most profitable way to book international acts is to develop a relationship with them and cut the agent out. This can save alot on DJ fees and is mostly predominant with mid level players.(ie: a DJ that isn't in demand yet but about to blow up.) If you make nice with a DJ that can bring you this it stays interesting for the club. Talented or not. Often (not always) the less talented DJ's also double as the bookers for clubs. This is not a coincidence.
That being said, because they do not answer you does not mean, "They don't know .". Use the example of the professional athelete. How many times do you think an NBA player is asked for tips about jump shots? Or why any athelete will give the same generic answer in TV interviews?
The answer is simple, they are sick of talking about it.
Reporter: "That was a great shot , how did you do it?"
Athelete: "It was a team effort, we worked hard and it paid off."
Is that the real answer? Most likely not, but we do hear it in every sport on a regular basis.
As far as track names go, you shouldn't ask. Its not a crime, but if you are going to train spot...you do it the same way anyone else does. You search for it. Never expect any easy answers. If you do ask and they tell you, so be it, the DJ is a nice guy and confident enough in his skills it will not matter. The people you are talking about are local. This job is even harder than the International headliner, because they do not have the freedom of playing the same set every week.(they also don't have big budgets to get every track they want.) They need to keep fresh and stay ahead of the competition. Gigging is a competition , make no mistake.
This is not meant to offend, but what you asked makes it seem like you are a recent entry into the scene. You will see alot of things that baffle you. In the beginning, i did not understand why it was taboo to make requests. My advice is learn as much as you can however you can. This way you can get your own answers. If DJ's have been doing it for years, they don't always want to talk basics. They might not feel as passionate that night as others. For them this is work, not funtime. Being a successful DJ is hard work, alot of people do not realize this. You need to realize they don't need to give you an all access pass to their knowledge, because simply they don't have the time.
Another reason for this could be.
1. They think you are a douche.
2. You are right and they are douches that do not know anything.
Just my 2 cents.
Short version. Clubs and Dj'ing is a business. In business things are rarely right or fair. |
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| Project-K |
| ^ the answer I was too lazy to write myself :p |
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| MrsPiemont |
| Getting paid to do it is even better.:p |
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| Mr.Mystery |
| quote: | Originally posted by HaeD
People don't love music neway, so the DJ don't matter, it's all about boose and drug. In fact, it's better for the club if the DJ dont care |
Quite likely the most nonsensical post I've ever read. |
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| Salegon |
| quote: | Originally posted by HaeD
People don't love music neway, so the DJ don't matter, it's all about boose and drug. In fact, it's better for the club if the DJ dont care |
:wtf: ? |
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