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| SasH21 |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
That's why I drive everywhere :D
I could care less if i'm polluting the environment. If they want me to start taking public transportation then they should make it reliable, affordable and practicable .
All of which the TTC is NOT! |
Well, I work downtown, so the reason I don't drive is cause there is no point to pay $20 parking every day lol:toothless |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Monthly Metropass breaks $100 barrier
Regular customers of the Toronto Transit Commission have to pay a little extra for monthly Metropasses starting today. But, if an informal survey is any guide, loyal riders regard the fare hike mostly with resignation.
The fare hike of $9.25 on the standard adult pass (to $109) is part of the TTC's strategy to relieve some of the deficit it expects next year. As of Nov. 4, the TTC will also raise prices on bulk purchases of tokens and tickets.
Ian Wheal, 70, relies on the subway to get from his Cabbagetown home to the nature walks that he leads as a volunteer for Toronto Field Naturalists. This week, passes for seniors and students jump from $83.75 to $91.25.
"I don't like it, but I've reluctantly accepted it as something that was going to happen. I don't really see any other way around it," he said.
Mr. Wheal, who has been buying Metropasses for more than 12 years, said he will budget around the hike, but he feels sorry for "people on fixed incomes or the unemployed," adding there should also be "some sort of concession for seniors who have no income beyond their pensions."
Other TTC riders, even those on a tight budget, said they weren't troubled by the extra nine dollars and change every month.
Andrew Willmore, a medical student at the University of Toronto who uses the TTC to commute to school and postings at hospitals all across the city, joked that the money he spends on transit is nothing compared to the cost of education.
"I'm already up to my eyeballs in debt, so it won't actually make much of a difference," he said, adding "at least there is some relief for students who get discounted passes."
Mr. Wilmore said he doesn't mind paying more if it means better service. "If the money goes towards upkeeping service or keeping it where it is, that's great."
Cuts to services would be worse than higher fares, agreed rider Peter Vradenburg, a TD Canada Trust manager.
He also questioned whether the hikes were much different from other rising expenses.
"I don't know if the costs going up are that much more than inflation," he said. "I think it reflects the cost of living."
TTC spokeswoman Marilyn Bolton said raising the monthly pass to more than $100 was something the commission had put off for as long as possible.
"Everything else has gone up. The cost of 10 tickets have gone up [and] cash fares," she said, pointing out the Metropass only went up by a dollar in 2006.
"But you can't keep it frozen forever," she said. "We did it for as long as we could as a bonus to our frequent users."
She said 70 per cent of the TTC's operating budget is raised by fares and the rest is subsidized by the city.
A tougher appraisal came from TTC rider Leon Damonze, a lawyer and vice-president of Cirrus Tenant Lease Services, a lease management company. He said the TTC and the city should have foreseen and managed their deficits before making the public pay.
"The City of Toronto could've found alternative ways to fund public transit without imposing a fare hike on riders," he said.
"Had they properly managed their budget, they wouldn't be in this situation ... now they're imposing an unfair tax and they're imposing a fare hike. They've got all these people, accountants, lawyers. They should be vigilant and constantly alerting the city of financial shortfalls." |
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/serv...tional/Ontario/ |
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| dEsidEL |
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"She said 70 per cent of the TTC's operating budget is raised by fares and the rest is subsidized by the city."
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this is the kicker..
do a few searches on Google.. Toronto has one of the highest ratios in the world as far as what percentage of the operating budget is covered by ridership fares alone
ask where is the Government and alternate sources of funding?
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| Dr. DAS |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
No no lol.
Sorry, meant token & tickets (its the exact same thing).
A normal fair is $2.75..but it worked out to like $2.20 if bought a 5/10 pack of tokens.
It now costs more than $2.20 but still less than $2.75 |
http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_16062.aspx
No fail, just a C-. |
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| dEsidEL |
a little ripped off?
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How does Toronto stack up against other transit systems when it comes to making your money travel? Some of the following cities aren't quite as big as T.O., a factor to keep in mind as you look at the prices for a ticket to ride. And some charge differently for zones and the way they divide their respective routes. But Toronto wants you to remember that that the TTC is the only system in North America funded almost solely from the fare box. Here's a look at what others are paying for their version of "The Better Way".
Canada
Vancouver
Adult cash fares: $2.25 for 1 zone; $3.25 for 2 zones; $45.0 for 3 zones
Monthly pass: $69 for 1 zone; $95 for 2 zones, $130 for three zones
Calgary
Adult cash fares: $2.25
Monthly passes: $75
Edmonton
Adult cash fare: $2.25
Monthly pass: $59
Regina
Adult cash fare: $2.10
Monthly pass: $57
Winnipeg
Adult cash fare: $2
Monthly pass: $71.25
London
Adult cash fare: $2.50
Monthly Pass: $74
Ottawa
Adult cash fare: $3
Monthly pass: $73
Montreal
Adult cash fare: $2.75
Monthly pass: $65
Halifax
Adult cash fare: $2
Monthly pass: $60
Fredericton
Adult cash fare: $1.75
Monthly pass: $65
St. John's
Adult cash fare: $2
Monthly pass: $63
United States
New York City
Adult cash fare: $2
Monthly Pass: $76
Los Angeles
Adult cash fare: $1.25
Monthly Pass: $62
Miami
Adult cash fare: $1.50
Monthly Pass: $75
Chicago
Adult cash fare: $2
Monthly Pass: $75
Philadelphia
Adult cash fare: $2
Monthly Pass: $78
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http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_16062.aspx |
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| SasH21 |
Aw, thank u for such a wonderful grade, David :wtf: |
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| Dave Akermanis |
| quote: | | The TTC is the most efficient (service) in North America and Europe in industry-wide stats. |
O rly? So thats why I'm late for work all the time? |
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| SasH21 |
O rly....
Sounds familiar to me?
Am I smelling some skillton action......:eek: :eek:
I love TTC, but it sucks in the morning! |
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| FunkyCrew |
| thank god for York's discounted metro pass! otherwise I'd be buying batches of tickets to keep my going |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by dEsidEL
a little ripped off?
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I cannot believe how much cheaper those other passes are! If I paid even $80/month, I would feel like I was getting real value for my money.
According to Adam Giambrone, from his interview on the Rick Mercer Report (Feb 20, 2007) the TTC is the 3rd largest transit system in North America, behind Mexico City, and New York City. |
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| exstasie |
HOw did I fail?
Tickets/Tokens are the same (except if you're talking about student tickets, which I wasn't).
Regular fair is $2.75 while tokens/tickets come to $2.25 if bought in 10.
$2.25 > $2.20 |
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| FunkyCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by exstasie
HOw did I fail?
Tickets/Tokens are the same (except if you're talking about student tickets, which I wasn't).
Regular fair is $2.75 while tokens/tickets come to $2.25 if bought in 10.
$2.25 > $2.20 |
no tickets were 2.10/each :)
10 tickets = $21 |
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