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Trance now vs. Trance then (pre 1995) (pg. 3)
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isoterra
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Originally posted by RebeL9
what are you comparing with when you say it sounds cheesy?


if i can second guess what he's referring to, i'd say it was more likely the instrumental makeup of the tracks rather than the musical content... so the answer to that would probably be 'anything new'

i can agree to an extent although 'cheesy' isn't the word i'd use.. more like 'primitive'


minhaj: that video was awesome, cheers for posting it. the quote on 24:00 is very interesting too, considering the way things progressed from then on...

as much of an affinity i have for post-98 trance, i do find it a shame the original movement seemed to fizzle out; i'd love to hear more stuff like that with a modern twist to it, then have it run alongside epic trance & be used as a compliment to it. maybe if the 'euphoria' term was coined (as mark reeder suggested in that vid) then the two primary forms of trance could have probably ran alongside eachother...

imagine it.. "do you listen to trance?" "nah mate, i prefer euphoria, although i'm getting into progressive euphoria at the moment" :happy2:
Minhaj
quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
imagine it.. "do you listen to trance?" "nah mate, i prefer euphoria, although i'm getting into progressive euphoria at the moment" :happy2:


even thou they didnt call the genre euphoria, there were millions of compilations out with the name 'euphoria':p
isoterra
quote:
Originally posted by Minhaj
even thou they didnt call the genre euphoria, there were millions of compilations out with the name 'euphoria':p


yep.. i remember the first one, mixed by pf project. epic trance was already pretty mainstream by the time that came about though.. it needed to be ~4 years earlier ;)
DJLafleur
I gotta say i prefer trance now( i like some old school stuff like robert miles,cosmic baby and such) but really i think trance is much better now and has a more sophisticated sound(then again i was born in 1991,i didnt even know what trance was till around 2004-2005)
Spirit5
quote:
Originally posted by SMC
Why do you always say this, what exactly is the point you're trying to make?


To put it simply, some people like to follow new tracks, new stuff. People like myself got into trance in the late 90s, because we liked the sound, it was exciting and fresh. You don't have to have gone to clubs to like the music, but seriously..when the music was "Fresh" and "New" most people on here I assume were too young to have experienced it at say a festival or a club, or weren't even into or have heard of EDM at such a young age. So to focus so much on this old sound when most people haven't even heard of it..just doesn't make sense to me. Can't always be an "oldie but goodie" especially when that goodie was never a goodie.

I got into trance in the early 2000s (around 2000) and liked stuff that was a few years older, but it's nice looking back and saying "I remember when I first heard that track". How many compilations, mixed CDs, DJ sets whatever..contained these tunes that many of us found on file-sharing sites or heard on net-radio? Not many of them. I am sure many people first found this music through the net when were young, not through going to clubs or festivals considering those are for older people, not 8 or 9 year olds. I have seriously not heard many of the tracks in that list, and I have listened to trance for a long time..I am sure others have as well.
Floorfiller
spirit i think you might be surprised how early some people start clubbing. personally i never did until i was able to get in legally. but i have friends that have been in and out of raves since they were 13-14 because they got in with older siblings / cousins that had hookups or involved in throwing the parties...

that's really the only difference. some people are exposed to it earlier than others...
Spirit5
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Originally posted by Floorfiller
spirit i think you might be surprised how early some people start clubbing. personally i never did until i was able to get in legally. but i have friends that have been in and out of raves since they were 13-14 because they got in with older siblings / cousins that had hookups or involved in throwing the parties...

that's really the only difference. some people are exposed to it earlier than others...


That is a possibility, but wouldn't you think their parent's would be a bit worried that their child was going to a "rave" and at 13 or 14? I know if I was a parent, I wouldn't let my child go to one of those. Sure you should be able to trust your child, and not all raves are "bad" but it's pretty well established that they are and have been..drug havens. Would you really want your child to be in a place filled with drugs, booze..whatever else? And besides that, unless their is no age limit in other countries for going to clubs, I still think it's in the minority for people age 9 or 10 to be going to clubs or raves, even in other countries other than the US. I don't think I'm in the minority who are 22 years old, was much too young to really "experience" the music at a young age, and got into trance was a teen, not a kid.
Spacey Orange
where can i get a copy of that film?:o
Floorfiller
quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
That is a possibility, but wouldn't you think their parent's would be a bit worried that their child was going to a "rave" and at 13 or 14? I know if I was a parent, I wouldn't let my child go to one of those. Sure you should be able to trust your child, and not all raves are "bad" but it's pretty well established that they are and have been..drug havens. Would you really want your child to be in a place filled with drugs, booze..whatever else? And besides that, unless their is no age limit in other countries for going to clubs, I still think it's in the minority for people age 9 or 10 to be going to clubs or raves, even in other countries other than the US. I don't think I'm in the minority who are 22 years old, was much too young to really "experience" the music at a young age, and got into trance was a teen, not a kid.


definitely not places for kids that age, but i garauntee parents didn't know what was up.

i never meant you were in the minority...i'm just saying everyone's path is a little different.

also keep in mind that the media attention to raves and clubs 10+ years ago wasn't the same as we would expect today. parents didn't know the word rave or exstacy. i remember telling my parents i was going to "techno concerts" lol.
TranceArmstrong
i havent heard much pre-95 but I love oakenfold's goa mix and voyage into trance cd

Erotic Buddha
quote:
Originally posted by Aristronica
in either case everyone should save themselves about 5-7 years and just move on to house.


you sir, are a ing moron
SMC
quote:
Originally posted by Spirit5
To put it simply, some people like to follow new tracks, new stuff. People like myself got into trance in the late 90s, because we liked the sound, it was exciting and fresh. You don't have to have gone to clubs to like the music, but seriously..when the music was "Fresh" and "New" most people on here I assume were too young to have experienced it at say a festival or a club, or weren't even into or have heard of EDM at such a young age. So to focus so much on this old sound when most people haven't even heard of it..just doesn't make sense to me. Can't always be an "oldie but goodie" especially when that goodie was never a goodie.

I got into trance in the early 2000s (around 2000) and liked stuff that was a few years older, but it's nice looking back and saying "I remember when I first heard that track". How many compilations, mixed CDs, DJ sets whatever..contained these tunes that many of us found on file-sharing sites or heard on net-radio? Not many of them. I am sure many people first found this music through the net when were young, not through going to clubs or festivals considering those are for older people, not 8 or 9 year olds. I have seriously not heard many of the tracks in that list, and I have listened to trance for a long time..I am sure others have as well.


You're just rephrasing what you said earlier.

So once again: Why do you always say this, what exactly is the point you're trying to make?
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